City Of Culture Bid

Discussion in 'Coventry City General Chat' started by torchomatic, Jun 11, 2016.

  1. skybluericoh

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    It is now, but started as Swallow or Swift, can't quite remember, by Lyons in Blackpool moved to the old cycle works in Parkside later changing it's name to Jaguar sure they made a car or cars badged SS. I think my point might be at what point will WASPs become a Coventry Team? Maybe they need to change the mane to Coventry Stingers? Nearly singers, that would pee off a few more.

    By the way I'm not a WASPs fan would love to see them gift the Ricoh to the Sky Blues but also understand that they saw an opportunity to get a world class stadium at a knock down price and took it. Unlike our greedy owners who wanted it for free or as close to that as they could get it.
     
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  2. The Reverend Skyblue

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    A 40 million debt that's due for repayment, plus didn't they have a 18 million pound debt before they came here, and was the debt that would have took them under.
    Yes they have a stadium,part of which weren't they second highest bidder on.
    Yea go council, supporting Coventrys sporting teams in every way
     
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  3. skybluericoh

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    I cannot separate the two of them I'm afraid, wish I could. But i doubt very much that all the legal cost that our ongoing at the mo are not been added to the SISU IOU and interest then put against it. I'm not clever enough to understand how Big Business finance works, was naive enough to believe statements like 'we have no overdraft' for it to be SISU are funding us and it is all debt that we are then paying interest on. So for me the owners and the club are one and the same. Yes CCFC have put a lot into the community, the community have also put a lot into the club over the years.
     
  4. chiefdave

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    Not quite the same thing though is it. When Swallow moved to Coventry the company had only been in existence for 6 years. They moved here in 1928 and didn't become Jaguar until 1945.
    Very different to a rugby club moving after nearly 150 years in London.
    It will be generational. Similar to franchise sports in the states. You're looking at over 50 years for that to happen.
     
  5. Nick

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    Didn't they offer more money for the Higgs Share the 2nd time around?

    Didn't they offer not far off the first time around?
     
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  6. torchomatic

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    Why is it? That's how long the lease has to run.

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  7. letsallsingtogether

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    It will need replacing well before that.
     
  8. The Reverend Skyblue

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    How dare you Nick post facts like these that look pro football club ,hang your head in shame.
    Get it right you slag off the club and praise at every turn the council.
     
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  9. torchomatic

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    Hopefully.

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    Bloody hell of course I knew that but whoosh you are not up to discussing anything about the real world with those Sky Blue blinkers on. Forget it, go back to your dream world.
     
  11. torchomatic

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    On a CCFC forum too. Whatever next




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  12. skybluetony176

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    Someone might hold CCFC's owners and custodians responsible for their actions and not get jumped on for doing so as if they've done something wrong?
     
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    Suspect that will be SISU's stance in JR2. That by extending the lease to 250 years they have effectively disposed of the freehold which would mean that there are rules and regulations that should have been followed.
     
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    Why does it have to be taken to an 'extreme conclusion' - why not just stick to what's being said? Where have I said or even indicated a group such as the EDL or one what hold such baseless and offensive opinions/views would be a reasonable?

    Also, where have I said that the highest bid 'has to' be accepted? Saying something should go to the highest bidder, as this would allow the largest amount of funding, is not saying it 'has to' go to them.

    As I said, missing the point.

    You've placed your own slant on what I've said and tried to present it back as my position.

    Also not quite sure why you needed to quote so many of my comments in one post, as people are perfectly able to read what I've said - but on the positive side it does underline your interpretation of what I've said is totally of the mark.

    A debate is about an exchange of differing positions - not about trying to belittle someone.
     
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    I think SS stood for swallow sidecars IIRC. You're definitely right about it being from Blackpool though.
     
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    Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it Wasps FC who have 150 years of history and they still exist in London today? Wasps RFC was a breakaway when the game turned professional in the 90's isn't it?
     
  17. torchomatic

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    Yes, there's an amateur and a Pro team. We have the equivalent of MK Dons in Coventry.
     
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    I slag off SISU regularly Tony and no one gets no my back. Maybe its just that people don't like you. ;)
     
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    Yes I will correct you. You are wrong.
     
  20. shmmeee

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    It's not a fucking rock and a hard place. Acting like a grown up with your business partners is not "a hard place" it's a very fucking easy place.
     
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    You can't have it both ways. Either its all about the money and the sponsor doesn't reflect on the organisation they are sponsoring or it isn't.

    If it isn't then its subjective as to what is suitable. You can't therefore assert as fact that there isn't an issue with Wasps sponsorship when clearly for some people there is.
     
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    Yes it fucking is.
     
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    Well... he is in terms of the fact they both came from the same root (one became two with links), so can both lay claim to tracing their history back to the origin.

    Of course the interestiung thing going forward will be if there's any kind of battle to lay claim to the official heritage, in a similar line to AFC Wimbledon and MK Dons...
     
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    Can't have it both ways? The two examples you'd decided to use are poles apart.

    Wasps have sponsored the bid. EDL will never sponsor the CCFC shirts.

    As I've asked - "where have I said that the highest bid 'has to' be accepted? Saying something should go to the highest bidder, as this would allow the largest amount of funding, is not saying it 'has to' go to them."

    People are entitled to disagree with the decision - can you confirm where I've "asserted as fact" otherwise?

    However, the fact people don't agree doesn't mean the decision shouldn't have been made.
     
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    No one really cares.
    Rangers are a new club but everybody still believes they are the same one.
     
  27. torchomatic

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    Same name, same colours, same ground.
     
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    Heritage 4 years ?
     
  29. Nick

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    Didn't they get to keep their history?
     
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    Glasgow bookies, probably from the East End, telling it like it is.
     
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    Yes they do.
     
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    Same team, same colours, same ground. Did you say anything about them prior to 2012? Don't like the team but they have the same heritage going back 130 years or however long ago it was they formed.

    This isn't anything like MK Dons or AFC Wimbledon, is it?
     
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    There are bigger things to worry about !!
    Wasps has happened unfortunately, they will continue to become part of our community regardless what we do.
    But having said that, they could do a lot for their cause if they could be receptive to CCFC needs.
    Evidently they have a good working relationship with CCFC (stalled at the moment on the stadium) and should work together with 'all' parties to make the Higgs Centre the Wasp/CCFC/Community state of the art facility it can be.
     
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    We need to forget them and move on, right?
     
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    No comprehende
     

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