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  • Start date Sep 1, 2012
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Lord_Nampil

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  • Sep 2, 2012
  • #36
The thing Wilder has on his side is the amount of matches he been involved with, nearly 500 of which hes won over 200. Name me a manager that has managed over 200 games? Let alone 200 victories, hes a decent candidate and has that mentality already installed!
 

skybluedan87

Member
  • Sep 2, 2012
  • #37
Evans020 said:
I genuinely believe this is the appointment our club needs.big names never deliver at this club..somebody young .ambitious.and who is used to winning/promotion.at 44 could be a long term appointment for us..some of our fans have to accept we could be in league for 2-3 years minimum.
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True enough Leeds we're down here for 3yrs before they went back up !
 

WestEndAgro

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  • Sep 2, 2012
  • #38
I would take him over the other the "Big Names" being linked .
 

Diehard Si

New Member
  • Sep 2, 2012
  • #39
I'd prefer Wise, but compared to some of the names like Ince and Dickov being mentioned I'd definately take him.

Means also we all get to play with a new 4-3-3 formation when doing our starting X1 posts

I think 4-3-3 could work quiet well, Baker on one flank and Elliott or McGoldrick on the other. Just not sure how Fleck will fit in.
 

mattylad

Member
  • Sep 2, 2012
  • #40
Sounds like a well thought out selection to me....yes in management terms he is young in age but on games he seems to have had 9 or 10 years of exerience and over that time has a superb win ratio
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2012
  • #41
Think I would be quite optimistic if it was him.
 

Coventry La La La

New Member
  • Sep 2, 2012
  • #42
He says uhmmmm in his interviews, I'm sure I remember people slating Thorn for that.

[video=youtube;iEextX2n5Yk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEextX2n5Yk[/video]
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2012
  • #43
Burn him at the stake! Hang, draw and quarter him! Make him listen to Kajagoogoo all day!

The swine!!!
 

Gaz

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2012
  • #44
If he talks like that then he must be clueless
 

skybluedan87

Member
  • Sep 2, 2012
  • #45
Otis said:
Burn him at the stake! Hang, draw and quarter him! Make him listen to Kajagoogoo all day!

The swine!!!
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Kajagoogoo surely that was only reserved for Thorn and then only when he was drunk !!
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Sep 2, 2012
  • #46
Can't say I would be overjoyed with this one
 

Otis

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  • Sep 2, 2012
  • #47
CCFC said:
Can't say I would be overjoyed with this one
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Because .......?
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Sep 2, 2012
  • #48
Otis said:
Because .......?
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Only 2 seasons of experience in the lowest tier of the football league is my main gripe. The Oxford fans seem very split on him also, some saying he has had a lot of money to spend and others saying he has done a good job.
12th an 9th place finishes, hardly inspiring stuff tbh.

Would have been sacked last season but was pally with the chairman according to a few

I think there are better options out there for sure
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2012
  • #49
CCFC said:
Can't say I would be overjoyed with this one
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I would still be surprised. It would suggest we have targeted him. Wouldn't seem an obvious choice unless there is something waggot and fisher have seen and liked.
 

Gaz

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2012
  • #50
Let's balance it out here.

Otis said:
Think I would be quite optimistic if it was him.
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Because .......?
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2012
  • #51
CCFC said:
Only 2 seasons of experience in the lowest tier of the football league is my main gripe. The Oxford fans seem very split on him also, some saying he has had a lot of money to spend and others saying he has done a good job.
12th an 9th place finishes, hardly inspiring stuff tbh.

Would have been sacked last season but was pally with the chairman according to a few

I think there are better options out there for sure
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Fair enough.


Must say I am encouraged by him. Current on a 47% win ratio at Oxford. We have been lucky to get anywhere near 30% with our lot of the past many season.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2012
  • #52
Otis said:
Fair enough.


Must say I am encouraged by him. Current on a 47% win ratio at Oxford. We have been lucky to get anywhere near 30% with our lot of the past many season.
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Yea I just think it is a similar gamble as to when you buy a conference/L2 player and hope they can make the step up to the higher level. Some can and others can not
 

Otis

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  • Sep 2, 2012
  • #53
gaz said:
Let's balance it out here.



Because .......?
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Because ....

A poster on GMK worked in Oxford for some time and heard very positive things about him.

Because he plays an attacking formation.

Because he should be young and hungry

Because he has a win ratio of 47%

Because he isn't a big name and I think it is those we should steer away from if at all possible (Wise excepted ... and I say Wise as an exception because I think he would be an inspirational figure)
 

Gaz

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  • Sep 2, 2012
  • #54
Some Oxford fans don't seem bothered he might be off.

Just because he is young, does that make him hungry ? I think that sounds good, but there isn't ever proof of this.

His win ratio is of lower leagues, has 0 experiance in the higher leagues.

Also heard that he was kept in the job because he was good mates with the old chairman.

Not enough there to make me feel, say .. quite optimistic
 

LJC_CCFC

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2012
  • #55
I'd much rather have Wise, Ince, Blackwell or Megson over Wilder and Tisdale. Appointing either of Wilder or Tisdale will only act as a catalyst for us to become a smaller club and rot in this division for years.
 

Otis

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  • Sep 2, 2012
  • #56
Yeah, cos the big name managers we have had have served us so well in the past haven't they!
 

LJC_CCFC

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2012
  • #57
Otis said:
Yeah, cos the big name managers we have had have served us so well in the past haven't they!
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Name any manager since relegation from the Prem that has done well.
 

skybluedan87

Member
  • Sep 2, 2012
  • #58
Aidy for half a season til we got found out !
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2012
  • #59
LJC_CCFC said:
Name any manager since relegation from the Prem that has done well.
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Which is pretty much my point.

People are saying we need an experienced manager or one who has success or a big name, but they have all failed us in the past.

We just need someone who can bring success and I don't care if it is someone I have never heard of or not. First I heard of Chris Wilder was two days ago.

There's lots of big names being banded about but I for one am very wary of all these big names (Megson, Ince etc.)

The only name that interests me is Dennis Wise and that is simply because I think he would be an inspirational and motivational manager and we need a revolution here.
 
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LJC_CCFC

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  • Sep 2, 2012
  • #60
Otis said:
Which is pretty much my point.

People are saying we need an experienced manager or one who has success or a big name, but they have all failed us in the past.

We just need someone who can bring success and I don't care if it is someone I have never heard of or not. First I heard of Chris Wilder was two days ago.

There's lots of big names being banded about but I for one am very wary of all these big names (Megson, Ince etc.)

The only name that interests me is Dennis Wise and that is simply because I think he would be an inspirational and motivational manager and we need a revolution here.
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The thing is, is that this opportunity to get Wise won't come along again and you just know another club in the championship or league 1 will get him and be promoted. I'm not against Wilder but imo Wise is the man
 

Gaz

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2012
  • #61
Experienced AND inexperienced managers have both failed here previously.

we shouldn't write any manager off that has failed somewhere else before, IMO that's what helps make some managers better. For example Ian Holloway was a better manager after what happened at Leicester.

Now is the time for someone with a bit behind him.
We need experience this time.
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2012
  • #62
5/4

someone somewhere knows something !


Shaw is out to 20's
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2012
  • #63
Otis said:
Which is pretty much my point.

People are saying we need an experienced manager or one who has success or a big name, but they have all failed us in the past.

We just need someone who can bring success and I don't care if it is someone I have never heard of or not. First I heard of Chris Wilder was two days ago.

There's lots of big names being banded about but I for one am very wary of all these big names (Megson, Ince etc.)

The only name that interests me is Dennis Wise and that is simply because I think he would be an inspirational and motivational manager and we need a revolution here.
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It doesn't matter how big or small they are as long as they good for us.

I don't really know enough about Wilder to feel optimistic about his possible appointment, I would give him a chance but wouldn't want to heap unneeded pressure by getting my hopes up about his appointment
 
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woody11462

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2012
  • #64
Either way there is one thing a new manager wil need to succeed is a bit of luck. Sometimes you just need something to go your way and it can change the mentality of your whole team.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2012
  • #65
LJC_CCFC said:
Name any manager since relegation from the Prem that has done well.
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Name the last manager we have had for more than a few months in any division including the Prem that has done any good.

Been a lot of years now hasn't it
 
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Tonylinc

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2012
  • #66
I was OK with RS before yesterday but now realise that we do indeed need experience.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2012
  • #67
LJC_CCFC said:
I'd much rather have Wise, Ince, Blackwell or Megson over Wilder and Tisdale. Appointing either of Wilder or Tisdale will only act as a catalyst for us to become a smaller club and rot in this division for years.
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Not necessarily. Norwich recruited Lambert from Colchester - its not the name that matters but the potential ability.

Same at Southampton - Atkins was at Scunthorpe.
 
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RichieGunns

New Member
  • Sep 2, 2012
  • #68
Sounds promising!

I just wish they'd get this sorted out now. The more time we mess around with this manager appointment, means more time lost getting our results going the right way.

We need to stop the rot now, nip it in the bud while we have the opportunity before the team becomes so disheartened that we can't turn things around.

Thats what happened last season. SISU should have had Thorn out by Christmas (as many have already said) and installed another manager in his place.

That manager could have stopped the rot, got the players playing to their potential but having a very limited knowledge of football, SISU felt Thorn could do it and they left him there, to the doom of our season and the relegation that followed.

The time is now, Fisher needs to come through on his promise he made the other week. The new manager must be installed by the Stevenage game or things will continue to grow ever worse, something we can't afford right now im afraid
 

ccfctommy

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2012
  • #69
I for one welcome the idea of Chris Wilder coming in.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2012
  • #70
Sisu have a very poor record of appointing managers. We can hope the present occupants will fare better but we have to be concerned. Giving a manager a contract extension then sacking him is an error of judgement one way or the other. It's a worry and a huge challenge for whoever steps in, whoever it is needs our unified support.
 
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