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Match Thread Cheltenham Town vs. Coventry City Match Thread - Tuesday 13th Nov (1 Viewer)

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Nick

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  • Nov 14, 2018
  • #456
skybluegod said:
Hasn't it been working? We won 5 and drew one in the league using it? Does that not suggest it is working.

I agree in this instance, if you are going to have a raft of changes best thing to do is to make it suit the players Baka cannot play alone, as we have seen. But barring the cup games I think the evidence has shown it is working
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We haven't been using it. We did before Chaplin arrived but then strangely when he doesn't play we revert back to it leaving the striker completely on their own up front.
 
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steve82

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  • Nov 14, 2018
  • #457
skybluegod said:
Hasn't it been working? We won 5 and drew one in the league using it? Does that not suggest it is working.

I agree in this instance, if you are going to have a raft of changes best thing to do is to make it suit the players Baka cannot play alone, as we have seen. But barring the cup games I think the evidence has shown it is working
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We’ve dropped the 4231 around the time we played Oxford.

We’ve since used a 442 or 4411 system when Chaplin (or Andreu v Portsmouth) has been asked to play deeper.

Walsall and last night we went back to a possible 4231, notably not a 442 that’s worked.


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skybluegod

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  • Nov 14, 2018
  • #458
Nick said:
We haven't been using it. We did before Chaplin arrived but then strangely when he doesn't play we revert back to it leaving the striker completely on their own up front.
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Fair enough, I view 4-4-1 as very similar a lot of the time, as with Thomas and Hiwula, they aren't really LM/RM they are much more attacking. And obviously Chaplin drops a lot to get on the ball. But fair enough
 

Nick

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  • Nov 14, 2018
  • #459
skybluegod said:
Fair enough, I view 4-4-1 as very similar a lot of the time, as with Thomas and Hiwula, they aren't really LM/RM they are much more attacking. And obviously Chaplin drops a lot to get on the ball. But fair enough
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That's only if they are up there supporting the striker though and basically playing off him. Last night Shipley and Jones (then Ngandu) were meant to be the wingers but were rarely anywhere near,
 

larry_david

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  • Nov 14, 2018
  • #460
MR glowing with praise for Sam mcallum at lb.

How's Mason done in the last two games?
 

skybluegod

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  • Nov 14, 2018
  • #461
Nick said:
That's only if they are up there supporting the striker though and basically playing off him. Last night Shipley and Jones (then Ngandu) were meant to be the wingers but were rarely anywhere near,
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Yep agree with that, which is where the limitations of Shipley as a winger come in, and Jones being off the pace does not help
 

better days

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  • Nov 14, 2018
  • #462
Nick said:
This one? Absolutely nobody supporting him so had to try a shot from a silly angle. Think it went off the defender into the side netting. Had just played a nice 1 - 2 with Bayliss.

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I thought it was the other side of the pitch
Only saw it live though so memory may be playing tricks
 

Nick

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  • Nov 14, 2018
  • #463
skybluegod said:
Yep agree with that, which is where the limitations of Shipley as a winger come in, and Jones being off the pace does not help
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Sometimes you will have Thomas going really advanced trying to play off a flickon but it's pretty rare.
 

covcity4life

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  • Nov 14, 2018
  • #464
larry_david said:
MR glowing with praise for Sam mcallum at lb.

How's Mason done in the last two games?
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mason probably be gone end of season i guess.
 

Otis

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  • Nov 14, 2018
  • #465
better days said:
Apparently Shipley's partner has just had a baby and they're up half the night so I don't suppose he's bursting with energy
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Can men have babies now then? Cos I'm sure he's gay based on all the yells and shouts from the stands.

Mind, some call Shipley a pussy, so maybe it's him that had the baby.
 

skybluegod

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  • Nov 14, 2018
  • #466
covcity4life said:
mason probably be gone end of season i guess.
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What? I doubt it, was much better than Brown in first 10 games of the Season and has now been out of injury for a couple months.
 
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covcity4life

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  • Nov 14, 2018
  • #467
skybluegod said:
What? I doubt it, was much better than Brown in first 10 games of the Season and has now been out of injury for a couple months.
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he was not much better at all imo

i think mason has been alright and wa svery impressed with him vs qpr u23s recently dont get me wrong but he benefits from jordan clarke syndrome in that because hes small if he makes jsut 1 tackle hes done so so well in some fans eyes.
 

Otis

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  • Nov 14, 2018
  • #468
There's only 2 cms difference between the pair of them, which isn't even an inch.
 
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skybluegod

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  • Nov 14, 2018
  • #469
covcity4life said:
he was not much better at all imo

i think mason has been alright and wa svery impressed with him vs qpr u23s recently dont get me wrong but he benefits from jordan clarke syndrome in that because hes small if he makes jsut 1 tackle hes done so so well in some fans eyes.
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As Otis said there isn't much height difference, and there isn't any bias.

He was much better in his first 10 games than Brown was in his. Brown has now started to get better, but every game he gets skins at least 2/3 times, and he often dives in for stupid challenges. neither is perfect, but also wouldn't suggest either will be gone next summer. And if one is to go it will be Brown IMO, but don't think either will.
 

covcity4life

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  • Nov 14, 2018
  • #470
skybluegod said:
As Otis said there isn't much height difference, and there isn't any bias.

He was much better in his first 10 games than Brown was in his. Brown has now started to get better, but every game he gets skins at least 2/3 times, and he often dives in for stupid challenges. neither is perfect, but also wouldn't suggest either will be gone next summer. And if one is to go it will be Brown IMO, but don't think either will.
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fairplay shocked on the height thing. thought it be more. brown getting better and we winning. i guess the answer will be given to us by robins selections over res tof season

like i said mason been alright so wouldnt be surprised, just if asked today i would say mason be one to go.
 

Otis

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  • Nov 14, 2018
  • #471
covcity4life said:
fairplay shocked on the height thing. thought it be more. brown getting better and we winning. i guess the answer will be given to us by robins selections over res tof season

like i said mason been alright so wouldnt be surprised, just if asked today i would say mason be one to go.
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It's Brown's hair that makes him look 6 inches taller.
 
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GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee

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  • Nov 15, 2018
  • #472
covcity4life said:
he was not much better at all imo

i think mason has been alright and wa svery impressed with him vs qpr u23s recently dont get me wrong but he benefits from jordan clarke syndrome in that because hes small if he makes jsut 1 tackle hes done so so well in some fans eyes.
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Also, I may be misreading what you mean here, but Jordan Clarke was about 6 foot?
 

covcity4life

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  • Nov 15, 2018
  • #473
GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee said:
Also, I may be misreading what you mean here, but Jordan Clarke was about 6 foot?
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small in centreback world isnt it? he looked tiny on pitch whenever i saw him matched up vs strikers
 
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Dimi_Konstantflapalot

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  • Nov 15, 2018
  • #474
covcity4life said:
small in centreback world isnt it? he looked tiny on pitch whenever i saw him matched up vs strikers
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Yeah I think Willis is about the same, if not 5'11''. Gets away with it as he has a decent leap and he's now clever enough to drop off where he knows he has no chance of winning the initial header.
 

Nick

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  • Nov 15, 2018
  • #475
Nah, Willis is taller than Clarke

 
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Johhny Blue

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  • Nov 17, 2018
  • #476
Nick said:
Nah, Willis is taller than Clarke

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Isn’t that the big building with the statue of Dion Dublin on the wall!
 

Johhny Blue

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  • Nov 17, 2018
  • #477
Otis said:
Snot level headed?

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Can we get this onto the West Ham forum?
 
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