Championship thread 25/26! (54 Viewers)

[Lamps]

Wrexham are well under at the moment but with PSR they could fall foul of the rules.

They have made a loss of £10.7m over the last 3 published accounting periods from 2021-2024. That is well below the £39m loss they're allowed to incur.

The 25/26 accounts will be the interesting ones though. I can't see how revenue will have increased that much for them and they are spending multi millions on single transfers now and making a lot of them.

They were under different rules then. The £39m loss over 3 years is for FFP in the Championship which is known as profit and sustainability (P&S)

League One and League Two Clubs follow the Salary Cost Management Protocol (“SCMP”) These state that Clubs can only spend a fixed percentage of its revenue on player wages etc. This limit can also be added to or impacted by equity injections or net transfer spend. This is now lower than it was before the start of this season because of what Wrexham and Birmingham did. It is now 60% of income for players expenditure in League One and 50% for League Two. But owners can donate as much as they like and the % of this can go on players expenditure. That's how they got to spend so much. They have a clean slate on entry to the Championship.

That's how Birmingham got to spend lots like £15m on Stansfield.

 

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[Liquid Gold]

They were under different rules then. The £39m loss over 3 years is for FFP in the Championship which is known as profit and sustainability (P&S)

League One and League Two Clubs follow the Salary Cost Management Protocol (“SCMP”) These state that Clubs can only spend a fixed percentage of its revenue on player wages etc. This limit can also be added to or impacted by equity injections or net transfer spend. This is now lower than it was before the start of this season because of what Wrexham and Birmingham did. It is now 60% of income for players expenditure in League One and 50% for League Two. But owners can donate as much as they like and the % of this can go on players expenditure. That's how they got to spend so much. They have a clean slate on entry to the Championship.

That's how Birmingham got to spend lots like £15m on Stansfield.

The 3 year window still becomes relevant when you get promoted into the championship. The idea that there is a grace period is an urban myth.

Clubs have to submit figures to the EFL to say they will come under the losses needed for any 3 year period.

 

[Otis]

Look at this set of games for Ipswich

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I know it's not quite possible, but I can see them getting minus 4 points from that lot

 

[Lamps]

The 3 year window still becomes relevant when you get promoted into the championship. The idea that there is a grace period is an urban myth.

Clubs have to submit figures to the EFL to say they will come under the losses needed for any 3 year period.

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Financial Regulation

The Official home of the English Football League

www.efl.com

 

[Sick Boy]

The 3 year window still becomes relevant when you get promoted into the championship. The idea that there is a grace period is an urban myth.

Clubs have to submit figures to the EFL to say they will come under the losses needed for any 3 year period.

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Ah yes, the ever-reliable ChatGPT.

 

[JSL]

I think we will easily extend the gap on them in this period

Theres more than just Ipswich to worry about. Hull and Millwall are being rather thrush like

 

[Liquid Gold]

Financial Regulation

The Official home of the English Football League

www.efl.com

from your link

That doesn't start when they go into the league, it looks at the past 3 accounting periods.

 

[Lamps]

The 3 year window still becomes relevant when you get promoted into the championship. The idea that there is a grace period is an urban myth.

Clubs have to submit figures to the EFL to say they will come under the losses needed for any 3 year period.

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If true why did the FL change the rules to try and stop more Clubs doing it after last season?

What you're saying is under the rules of League One they could spend as much as they like as long as they are given enough money by their owner, but as soon as they get promoted they have suddenly broken the FFP rules?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

If true why did the FL change the rules to try and stop more Clubs doing it after last season?

What you're saying is under the rules of League One they could spend as much as they like as long as they are given enough money by their owner, but as soon as they get promoted they have suddenly broken the FFP rules?

Birmingham have been in this league for 2 out of the 3 seasons, 23/24 still counts and rightly so.

 

[Lamps]

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That doesn't start when they go into the league, it looks at the past 3 accounting periods.

Yes the big words are Championship Clubs

 

[Lamps]

Birmingham have been in this league for 2 out of the 3 seasons, 23/24 still counts and rightly so.

But because of the difference in the rules they get away with last seasons spend.

 

[Liquid Gold]

Yes the big words are Championship Clubs

You're just wrong mate but I know what you're like and you're gonna start being condescending by using phrases like "big words" to imply I don't understand things so I'm just going to leave you to it.

 

[Lamps]

You're just wrong mate but I know what you're like and you're gonna start being condescending by using phrases like "big words" to imply I don't understand things so I'm just going to leave you to it.

The rules are there.

Or how else have Birmingham got away with spending an absolute fortune like £15m on Stansfield alone when in League One?

 

[covcity4life]

I'm only looking at the top 5 because Derby, Wrexham and Preston are 14 points behind us with 14 games to go. We won't be in the top two if any of them catch us up.

I'm not bothered who finishes where as long as we finish in the top two.

Yeh I don't mean anyone outside top 5 is a automatic contender. I just mean it's not only 6th place that is up for grabs

 

[David O'Day]

Ah yes, the ever-reliable ChatGPT.

yeah, it's right this time though

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Yeh I don't mean anyone outside top 5 is a automatic contender. I just mean it's not only 6th place that is up for grabs

People are allowed to make predictions. I think the general point is that the league is so close that even the team down in 16th has a shot at the playoffs if they were to put a few wins together.

 

[Lamps]

Yeh I don't mean anyone outside top 5 is a automatic contender. I just mean it's not only 6th place that is up for grabs

Definitely correct there. Any side in the top 16 can make the playoffs and 8th are only 6 points off 4th.

 

[Lamps]

yeah, it's right this time though

I suppose the Championship rules are the same as the Premiership rules so Leicester were right to question their punishment.

I'll leave it to the experts on here.

 

[covcity4life]

People are allowed to make predictions. I think the general point is that the league is so close that even the team down in 16th has a shot at the playoffs if they were to put a few wins together.

No need to be defensive about it. I'm not disagreeing with the notion that mid table clubs still have alot to play for. I'm simply adding I don't think it's only 6th place that is available to them that's all

 

[SBAndy]

I suppose the Championship rules are the same as the Premiership rules so Leicester were right to question their punishment.

I'll leave it to the experts on here.

Whilst the ‘rules’ framework is the same, because they are two different governing bodies (PL/EFL) that was the issue. Championship and L1 both fall under EFL jurisdiction.