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Nick

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  • Feb 5, 2020
  • #1,156
Astute said:
I did put bets on. Got 12/1 before their first goal on them qualifying. Got 10/1 before their second goal on qualifying. Their second goal was a fluke. But yes let's hammer the lads for a fluke. It seems to be what you are doing. Let's forget about everything else.
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Or we can point out that the bloke who scored should never have had acres of space in the last minute to do that? Same with the one who took on multiple players to put the cross in for the equaliser.

The first equaliser he was practically on the byline, even take a foul and kill some time and let us re-shape.
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Feb 5, 2020
  • #1,157
Nick said:
Not really, there's not much worse than 2 last-minute equalisers and losing on penalties. Especially when both goals were pretty preventable if we didn't let them get a cross in.
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You obviously haven't been to the same away games I've been at where we're thrown in the towel after 5 mins and got battered from pillar to post for 90 mins. That is a lot worse.
 

Astute

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  • Feb 5, 2020
  • #1,158
Nick said:
The moment we conceded in the very last minute of normal time and then did the same in extra time?

Of course people are going to be annoyed at the way we lost the game.
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So who has said they wasn't annoyed at the time? I would have kicked the cat if I was at home....and if I had a cat. But now I am at home I wouldn't...... even if I had one and was into hurting animals.
 

Nick

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  • Feb 5, 2020
  • #1,159
Ring Of Steel said:
exactly. Complete loss of persepctive. Its seemingly ok when other teams field reserve teams for cup games indicating how little they care, now we're going around distraught that we aren't going to get the chance to get smashed up the M69 between 2 of the biggest games we've played in years, after having outplayed a team from the division above apart from about 90 seconds.
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It's not a loss of anything, nobody left the game happy last night.

I'd say the difference in perspective is listening to it on CWR.
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Feb 5, 2020
  • #1,160
Astute said:
So who has said they wasn't annoyed at the time? I would have kicked the cat if I was at home....and if I had a cat. But now I am at home I wouldn't...... even if I had one and was into hurting animals.
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I can't say I was 'angry' tbh- philosophical about it for sure but more angry at the deficiencies around putting chances away than at the overall performance.
 

Astute

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  • Feb 5, 2020
  • #1,161
Nick said:
Or we can point out that the bloke who scored should never have had acres of space in the last minute to do that? Same with the one who took on multiple players to put the cross in for the equaliser.

The first equaliser he was practically on the byline, even take a foul and kill some time and let us re-shape.
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Would love to see you run about for 2 hours and still cover every blade of grass.

It was a fluke. Get over it.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Feb 5, 2020
  • #1,162
Nick said:
It's not a loss of anything, nobody left the game happy last night.

I'd say the difference in perspective is listening to it on CWR.
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Nope, it was the same game, the same things happened. I would have been feeling exactly the same had I been there. Its disproportionate to get so wound up about that game when you consider all the games where we've been destroyed, and what is ahead for us in the next few weeks.
 
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Nick

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  • Feb 5, 2020
  • #1,163
Astute said:
Would love to see you run about for 2 hours and still cover every blade of grass.

It was a fluke. Get over it.
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I'd have taken a yellow to kill time and stop the counter-attack miles before he had time to put the cross in.
 

Nick

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  • Feb 5, 2020
  • #1,164
Ring Of Steel said:
Nope, it was the same game, the same things happened. Its disproportionate to get so wound up about that game when you consider all the games where we've been destroyed, and what is ahead for us in the next few weeks.
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It's really not the same is it? Everybody at the game was pretty annoyed / angry / pissed off.

Checking the scores on Teletext wouldn't have the same feel to it.
 

shmmeee

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  • Feb 5, 2020
  • #1,165
Nick said:
I'd have taken a yellow to kill time and stop the counter-attack miles before he had time to put the cross in.
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If our players always made the perfect decision and never made a mistake even after 2 hours of football, they wouldn’t be our players that long.

It happens. We did better than anyone expected. It was bad luck and that’s all.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Feb 5, 2020
  • #1,166
Nick said:
Not many were walking out overjoyed, pretty much everybody was pissed off with the way we lost it.

Did you predict 2 last-minute equalisers for them and a loss on penalties? You should have put a bet on if you saw that happening.
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btw who was overjoyed? I haven't read all the posts but I didn't see anyone celebrating. Plenty with a balanced view of things but I haven't come across people jumping up and down.
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Feb 5, 2020
  • #1,167
Nick said:
It's really not the same is it? Everybody at the game was pretty annoyed / angry / pissed off.

Checking the scores on Teletext wouldn't have the same feel to it.
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Not really sure what Teletext has to do with anything tbh
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Feb 5, 2020
  • #1,168
shmmeee said:
If our players always made the perfect decision and never made a mistake even after 2 hours of football, they wouldn’t be our players that long.

It happens. We did better than anyone expected. It was bad luck and that’s all.
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Agreed- apart from I fully expected us to play really well.
 

Nick

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  • Feb 5, 2020
  • #1,169
Ring Of Steel said:
Not really sure what Teletext has to do with anything tbh
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If you can't see why listening to Clive and Oggy get confused about what's going on differs from being at the game then is there much point trying to explain it to you?

You didn't predict the outcome at all. It is the way in which we lost that annoys people, the same as Shrewsbury and when we have drawn against Oxford, Posh etc.
 

Astute

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  • Feb 5, 2020
  • #1,170
Nick said:
I'd have taken a yellow to kill time and stop the counter-attack miles before he had time to put the cross in.
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And given a free kick away that would have given them a chance to get arranged for a dangerous attack?

I can see it. Someone tackled him. Gave away a free kick. They scored from the free kick. You would have been on your high horse blaming the player for giving away the dangerous free kick as there wasn't much danger from the position he was in. Because it would have needed a fluke goal to go in...........
 

Nick

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  • Feb 5, 2020
  • #1,171
Astute said:
And given a free kick away that would have given them a chance to get arranged for a dangerous attack?

I can see it. Someone tackled him. Gave away a free kick. They scored from the free kick. You would have been on your high horse blaming the player for giving away the dangerous free kick as there wasn't much danger from the position he was in. Because it would have needed a fluke goal to go in...........
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It would have given us chance to get back to defend it properly rather than it being a fast counter attack. It was on the byline and would have also wasted a bit of time, it would have effectively made it the last kick of the game and a clearance would have seen the ref blow up.

A free kick in that position wasn't too much different to a throw in.
 

Adge

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  • Feb 5, 2020
  • #1,172
Nick said:
It's really not the same is it? Everybody at the game was pretty annoyed / angry / pissed off.

Checking the scores on Teletext wouldn't have the same feel to it.
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What the hell am I reading here? You need to get a bit of perspective here squire. Of course people were gutted at the end due to the nature of the way we went out, but not the way we played etc.
The reception the team got when leaving the pitch tells you everything you need to know.
It’s often said on here “we need to forget that we were in the Premier League”,maybe on this occasion you should remember that.
 
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Nick

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  • Feb 5, 2020
  • #1,173
Adge said:
What the hell am I reading here? You need to get a bit of perspective here squire. Of course people were gutted at the end due to the nature of the way we went out.
The reception the team got when leaving the pitch tells you everything you need to know.
It’s often said on here “we need to forget that we were in the Premier League”,maybe on this occasion you should remember that.
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It's nothing to do with being in the Premier League or expecting to win.

It is the manner in which we lost. The same as when we lost to Shrewsbury or got a draw against Oxford.
 

Adge

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  • Feb 5, 2020
  • #1,174
Nick said:
It's nothing to do with being in the Premier League or expecting to win.

It is the manner in which we lost. The same as when we lost to Shrewsbury or got a draw against Oxford.
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The manner in which we lost? Yes-a lottery on Penalties.
 
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Astute

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  • Feb 5, 2020
  • #1,175
Nick said:
It would have given us chance to get back to defend it properly rather than it being a fast counter attack. It was on the byline and would have also wasted a bit of time, it would have effectively made it the last kick of the game and a clearance would have seen the ref blow up.

A free kick in that position wasn't too much different to a throw in.
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So a throw in is as fast and powerful as a free kick? Desperate measures now I see.
 

Nick

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  • Feb 5, 2020
  • #1,176
Astute said:
So a throw in is as fast and powerful as a free kick? Desperate measures now I see.
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Did you see their throw ins with how much spin they had on them? They were hitting the penalty spot from pretty much any throw in in our half.

You put this out and it wouldn't have been that much difference between a throw or a free kick.

 

Nick

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  • Feb 5, 2020
  • #1,177
Adge said:
The manner in which we lost? Yes-a lottery on Penalties.
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After being in the lead twice until the last kick of normal time and extra time.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 5, 2020
  • #1,178
Nick said:
After being in the lead twice until the last kick of normal time and extra time.
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Wasn’t the last kick of either. Just felt like it
 

Nick

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  • Feb 5, 2020
  • #1,179
Sky Blue Pete said:
Wasn’t the last kick of either. Just felt like it
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Well yes, aside from kick off again.

90+2
120
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Feb 5, 2020
  • #1,180
Nick said:
If you can't see why listening to Clive and Oggy get confused about what's going on differs from being at the game then is there much point trying to explain it to you?
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Then stop trying, I'm not ever going to be convinced I need to be in a massive strop criticising after that performance. Disproportionate.
 

cc84cov

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  • Feb 5, 2020
  • #1,181
Nick said:
Or we can point out that the bloke who scored should never have had acres of space in the last minute to do that? Same with the one who took on multiple players to put the cross in for the equaliser.

The first equaliser he was practically on the byline, even take a foul and kill some time and let us re-shape.
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O’Hare & Mason both at fault for goals left sided we looked weak
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 5, 2020
  • #1,182
Nick said:
Well yes, aside from kick off again.

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They hit the bar in normal time and we and they had an attack in extra time.

It’s only splitting hairs sorry
 
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Nick

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  • Feb 5, 2020
  • #1,183
Ring Of Steel said:
Then stop trying, I'm not ever going to be convinced I need to be in a massive strop criticising after that performance. Disproportionate.
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I have criticised closing down for their 2 goals and I have also criticised our sitters that were missed (over the 2 games).
 

Nick

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  • Feb 5, 2020
  • #1,184
Sky Blue Pete said:
They hit the bar in normal time and we and they had an attack in extra time.

It’s only splitting hairs sorry
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Even more reason we should have taken a booking and killed their momentum
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 5, 2020
  • #1,185
Nick said:
Even more reason we should have taken a booking and killed their momentum
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Yep
 

Nick

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  • Feb 5, 2020
  • #1,186
Sky Blue Pete said:
Yep
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Ohare or somebody else takes out their player on the byline there and then argue with the ref a little bit and the free kick is effectively going to be their only chance remaining. Even just 2 hands in his back and push him out of play and boot the ball away. It's 90+2 minutes.

They did it to us in the first game.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 5, 2020
  • #1,187
By the way clarified with our safety officer that ends was decided by toss of a coin and who took theirs first

Unlucky again
 

Nick

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  • Feb 5, 2020
  • #1,188
Sky Blue Pete said:
By the way clarified with our safety officer that ends was decided by toss of a coin and who took theirs first

Unlucky again
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Doesn't it usually work that whoever wins the toss gets to pick the end or to go first? If they pick to go first then we pick ends?
 

ccfc1234

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  • Feb 5, 2020
  • #1,189
Most important thing now is we enter the competition at the 3rd round stage next season!
 
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no_loyalty

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  • Feb 5, 2020
  • #1,190
A Blues fan I work with said that we were the better team, also said he was impressed with our right winger Bakayoko.
 
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