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shmmeee

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  • Sep 8, 2020
  • #141
Evo1883 said:
But in what way does it effect your life that the royals have privelage, and in removing the monarchy how would it positively impact your life?
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Id quite like to live in a meritocracy TBH. And I’m atheist.

I like the Queen, she’s easily the best world leader and has seen a lot and comes off as very wise and a real asset to the country. That’s entirely chance though. I wouldn’t trust any of her useless offspring.
 

Evo1883

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  • Sep 8, 2020
  • #142
shmmeee said:
He says, virtue signalling.
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Well it's true, half cast is now derogatory, must be corrected
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Sep 8, 2020
  • #143
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
A Somali immigrant just caused what looks to be a terrorist attack round the corner.

Quick. Let's talk about Prince Andrew.
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Well, I suppose Prince Andrew is fair game but if the murdering bastard is indeed a Somali immigrant it's time to give him all the support we can. Poor chap must have underlying trauma issues.
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 8, 2020
  • #144
Evo1883 said:
Well it's true, half cast is now derogatory, must be corrected
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Eh it’s just one of my triggers: virtue signalling about how you don’t like virtue signalling. Such a silly phrase, literally all communication is virtue signalling, ask the Buddhists.

I believe dual heritage is the accepted term but god knows. Everyone I know just says “half black” or “mixed race”
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Sep 8, 2020
  • #145
shmmeee said:
Eh it’s just one of my triggers: virtue signalling about how you don’t like virtue signalling. Such a silly phrase, literally all communication is virtue signalling, ask the Buddhists.

I believe dual heritage is the accepted term but god knows. Everyone I know just says “half black” or “mixed race”
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No one says " coloured" any more as I guess it's unacceptable . However, last week the Google logo had a theme to it, as it does occasionally on the anniversary of this or that. Intrigued, I looked further into it and it was the anniversary of the founding of the. " league of coloured gentlemen " here in the UK in 1933 by a Jamaican immigrant, Harold Moody.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 8, 2020
  • #146
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
No one says " coloured" any more as I guess it's unacceptable . However, last week the Google logo had a theme to it, as it does occasionally on the anniversary of this or that. Intrigued, I looked further into it and it was the anniversary of the founding of the. " league of coloured gentlemen " here in the UK in 1933 by a Jamaican immigrant, Harold Moody.
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Person of colour is acceptable, coloured isn't and hasn't been for a long while. I find it a nonsense term (white people are a colour too) and there are definitely a small number of people within some communities who seem to change what are and aren't acceptable terms every five minutes to make themselves out to be a victim and everyone is prejudiced against them.
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 8, 2020
  • #147
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
No one says " coloured" any more as I guess it's unacceptable . However, last week the Google logo had a theme to it, as it does occasionally on the anniversary of this or that. Intrigued, I looked further into it and it was the anniversary of the founding of the. " league of coloured gentlemen " here in the UK in 1933 by a Jamaican immigrant, Harold Moody.
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The whole “coloured is racist but people of colour is fine” thing confuses me no end.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Sep 8, 2020
  • #148
Any more information about what happened in Birmingham on Saturday?
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 8, 2020
  • #149
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Any more information about what happened in Birmingham on Saturday?
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They’ve arrested someone haven’t they? Probably won’t hear much until the trial now.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Sep 8, 2020
  • #150
shmmeee said:
They’ve arrested someone haven’t they? Probably won’t hear much until the trial now.
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I'm not too sure. I did try and read up about it this morning but there didn't seem to be anything fresh. I think they did initially arrest someone a couple of days ago but haven't heard pretty much anything since.
 

chiefdave

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  • Sep 8, 2020
  • #151
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I'm not too sure. I did try and read up about it this morning but there didn't seem to be anything fresh. I think they did initially arrest someone a couple of days ago but haven't heard pretty much anything since.
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Birmingham stabbings: Man arrested on suspicion of murder

A 27-year-old man is arrested in the early hours in the Selly Oak suburb of the city.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Sep 8, 2020
  • #152
shmmeee said:
The whole “coloured is racist but people of colour is fine” thing confuses me no end.
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Anyone who says "persons of colour" is a bit of a knob really.
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 8, 2020
  • #153
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Anyone who says "persons of colour" is a bit of a knob really.
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I don’t get any of the Critical Race Theory stuff. Seems like 1980s racism repackaged as woke TBH.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Sep 8, 2020
  • #154

Birmingham stabbings: Man charged with murder

Zephaniah McLeod is charged with the murder of 23-year-old Jacob Billington.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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SBT

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  • Sep 9, 2020
  • #155
So...not a Somalian refugee after all then?
 
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shmmeee

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  • Sep 9, 2020
  • #156
Seems like he just got out of prison. History of serious mental health issues (no shit).

Birmingham suspect who 'killed 1 & left 7 injured' freed from jail 5 months ago

THE prime suspect in the Birmingham knife rampage was released from jail just five months ago, The Sun can reveal. Zephaniah McLeod, 27, had been jailed for three years in 2017 but was released at …
www.thesun.co.uk
 
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SBT

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  • Sep 9, 2020
  • #157
The Lurker said:
so a Somalian was the murdering scum last night in Brum. press not allowed to say it but common knowledge in Brum wonder if the left on here will stick up for him as always
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I'm sure there's a good explanation for this btw
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Sep 9, 2020
  • #158
SBT said:
I'm sure there's a good explanation for this btw
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I tell you what does need some explanation though.

Imagine if a white man had gone around Birmingham and stabbed 7 black people, killing one of them. What do you think the outcome would be?

I know you are really excited that the guy wasn't Somali, but there is still a very big issue here. Some poor lad has just lost his life ffs.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 9, 2020
  • #159
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Imagine if a white man had gone around Birmingham and stabbed 7 black people, killing one of them. What do you think the outcome would be?
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He'd be arrested and charged with murder wouldn't he?
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Sep 9, 2020
  • #160
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I tell you what does need some explanation though.

Imagine if a white man had gone around Birmingham and stabbed 7 black people, killing one of them. What do you think the outcome would be?

I know you are really excited that the guy wasn't Somali, but there is still a very big issue here. Some poor lad has just lost his life ffs.
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Outcomes would include him being sent down for murder, and you ignoring it- you only appear concerned when its someone non-white committing offences.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Sep 9, 2020
  • #161
chiefdave said:
He'd be arrested and charged with murder wouldn't he?
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Deliberately playing stupid doesn't suit a smart man like yourself.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 9, 2020
  • #162
Ring Of Steel said:
Outcomes would include him being sent down for murder, and you ignoring it- you only appear concerned when its someone non-white committing offences.
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Oh, here comes the brigade.

You obviously don't like it because a white guy was the victim. As usual, it will be yesterday's news pretty soon. Then thankfully you can ignore it again. Can you not imagine what would happen if the races were the other way around? You wouldn't be coming on here trying to deflect, you would be slitting your own wrists because you felt guilty about being white, whilst trying to tell everyone else how guilty they should be for encouraging such a racist attack.
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Sep 9, 2020
  • #163
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Oh, here comes the brigade.

You obviously don't like it because a white guy was the victim. As usual, it will be yesterday's news pretty soon. Then thankfully you can ignore it again. Can you not imagine what would happen if the races were the other way around? You wouldn't be coming on here trying to deflect, you would be slitting your own wrists because you felt guilty about being white, whilst trying to tell everyone else how guilty they should be for encouraging such a racist attack.
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lol- keep crying & doing your routine, you might strike lucky and Lurker will show up to back you up. Most other people just see you for what you are.
 

chiefdave

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  • Sep 9, 2020
  • #164
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Deliberately playing stupid doesn't suit a smart man like yourself.
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Not playing stupid, have no idea what you're getting at.

The police and media have been accused of treating this case differently because it concerned a Somali refugee yet it turns out he was British, recently released from prison and known to have serious mental health issues. Once he was identified he was arrested and then charged.

What is it you think they would have done differently if he was white?

For me the most pressing questions are why this incident lasted so long and ended without him being apprehended. Certainly need to look into the initial response and how the police handled it. And of course once again questions around treatment and support for those with mental health issues.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 9, 2020
  • #165
Ring Of Steel said:
lol- keep crying & doing your routine, you might strike lucky and Lurker will show up to back you up. Most other people just see you for what you are.
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Careful now, if you disagree you'll be accused of following him around to persecute him, if you ignore you'll be told you've lost the argument as you're obviously anti-white.
 
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Grendel

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  • Sep 9, 2020
  • #166
chiefdave said:
Not playing stupid, have no idea what you're getting at.

The police and media have been accused of treating this case differently because it concerned a Somali refugee yet it turns out he was British, recently released from prison and known to have serious mental health issues. Once he was identified he was arrested and then charged.

What is it you think they would have done differently if he was white?

For me the most pressing questions are why this incident lasted so long and ended without him being apprehended. Certainly need to look into the initial response and how the police handled it. And of course once again questions around treatment and support for those with mental health issues.
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Mental health issues - - Jesus Christ - just hang him that will end his mental turmoil
 

chiefdave

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  • Sep 9, 2020
  • #167
Grendel said:
Mental health issues - - Jesus Christ - just hang him that will end his mental turmoil
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Are you suggesting bringing back capital punishment for this person specifically, murderers in general or just anyone who has mental health issues?
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 9, 2020
  • #168
chiefdave said:
Are you suggesting bringing back capital punishment for this person specifically, murderers in general or just anyone who has mental health issues?
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I am suggesting he was in prison and not a medical institution so was not whatever he did before was under the Mental Health Act as an excuse for his actions. I am sure Mr Suttcliffe, Mr Huntley, Mr Neilson, Mr and Mrs West all had mental health issues and I would have hanged them as well
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Sep 9, 2020
  • #169
Ring Of Steel said:
lol- keep crying & doing your routine, you might strike lucky and Lurker will show up to back you up. Most other people just see you for what you are.
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So you think the reaction that the victims were white is the same as it would be if they were black?
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Sep 9, 2020
  • #170
Deleted member 5849 said:
Careful now, if you disagree you'll be accused of following him around to persecute him, if you ignore you'll be told you've lost the argument as you're obviously anti-white.
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Do you disagree with my above statement?
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 9, 2020
  • #171
chiefdave said:
Not playing stupid, have no idea what you're getting at.

The police and media have been accused of treating this case differently because it concerned a Somali refugee yet it turns out he was British, recently released from prison and known to have serious mental health issues. Once he was identified he was arrested and then charged.

What is it you think they would have done differently if he was white?

For me the most pressing questions are why this incident lasted so long and ended without him being apprehended. Certainly need to look into the initial response and how the police handled it. And of course once again questions around treatment and support for those with mental health issues.
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Given that a career criminal was just killed by the police in America and we saw riots, looting, and protests. What do you think the reaction would be if the races were reversed in this situation where a white man went around the gay district killing people who were black?

I seriously doubt it would involve people trying to have an argument about Prince Andrew.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Sep 9, 2020
  • #172
Grendel said:
I am suggesting he was in prison and not a medical institution so was not whatever he did before was under the Mental Health Act as an excuse for his actions. I am sure Mr Suttcliffe, Mr Huntley, Mr Neilson, Mr and Mrs West all had mental health issues and I would have hanged them as well
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For me that's two separate issues, the debate over capital punishment is a huge issue by itself.

Completely agree that mental health shouldn't be used as a get out, but we all know there are lawyers who will try anything. Of course mental health can cover a huge array of issues, some relatively minor. But we have to make sure we have a working system for those who genuinely have issues.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Sep 9, 2020
  • #173
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Oh, here comes the brigade.

You obviously don't like it because a white guy was the victim. As usual, it will be yesterday's news pretty soon. Then thankfully you can ignore it again. Can you not imagine what would happen if the races were the other way around? You wouldn't be coming on here trying to deflect, you would be slitting your own wrists because you felt guilty about being white, whilst trying to tell everyone else how guilty they should be for encouraging such a racist attack.
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Do we know all the victims are white? I’ve only seen one reported. I mean statistically they probably are, the country being 86% ish white after all.
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 9, 2020
  • #174
I swear, the mental health debate.

No one of sound mind stabs people!!
 

chiefdave

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  • Sep 9, 2020
  • #175
shmmeee said:
I swear, the mental health debate.

No one of sound mind stabs people!!
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That's the problem isn't it? You can't say everyone who murders has a mental health issue and therefore should be excused so the issue becomes where do you put the line at which diminished responsibility becomes a valid argument.
 
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