Bin Strikes (1 Viewer)

[David O'Day]

I'm bound by those rules and see no problem at all with binmen going home once they've finished their round, apart from pure spite why would somebody care?

cool, but you are not everyone.

If you put it to poll most people would not support a strike based on this, most people would have a reaction like Nick

That is just people for you

 

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[Nick]

You get paid more for performing more tasks than you are contractually obliged so it'd still be a thing

Not sure how you would define the exact number of tasks per contract as opposed to hours though. (In wider industries).

Surely if everybody at work is finishing a few hours early every day then everything is done and there isn't any need for over time?

 

[NorthernWisdom]

This equal pay stuff is mental. Who cares if a job is paid by task or by hour? (Other than Nick) And how is that not equal pay?

Yeah I don't get that. Surely agile working comes into play anyway nowadays with the other roles?

 

[NorthernWisdom]

Most of us have accepted we are losing task and finish , I personally don't think a strike will happen ..

I'd assume informally the same as now will happen anyway?

 

[Evo1883]

We will just go slower and finish later , no issues

 

[SBAndy]

We will just go slower and finish later , no issues

And so productivity (in a microcosm) declines.

(Evo, not a dig at you in the slightest, just find it ridiculous that efficiency is being punished)

 

[NorthernWisdom]

We will just go slower and finish later , no issues

Surely a decent manager just says carry on as you are, we'll say nothing?

I mean, until this report I hadn't even realised it was a thing anyway

 

[Evo1883]

Surely a decent manager just says carry on as you are, we'll say nothing?

I mean, until this report I hadn't even realised it was a thing anyway

Main management is based at London Road with us , they see it all mate

 

[Evo1883]

Surely a decent manager just says carry on as you are, we'll say nothing?

I mean, until this report I hadn't even realised it was a thing anyway

Task and finish is in our contracts , not for much longer

 

[SBAndy]

Not sure how you would define the exact number of tasks per contract as opposed to hours though. (In wider industries).

Surely if everybody at work is finishing a few hours early every day then everything is done and there isn't any need for over time?

Few things:

1. It would be impossible to implement across every job as each have different needs/aims. A shop till worker will be needed on a time metric as the workload doesn’t ‘go down’ as you complete a task (i.e. serve a customer).

2. Overtime is a bit of a sham anyway in my opinion. I know people personally who will slow-play the working day knowing they will get OT opportunities as a result. OT is only really a solution when workload spikes unexpectedly.

3. As per my post above, it doesn’t matter to me, you or anyone how long a task takes if it’s done and done correctly. Couldn’t give a flying fuck if Evo is the Lewis Hamilton of the bin man world and his crew complete their round in 3 minutes. Crack on.

 

[shmmeee]

Maybe they’re going to expand your responsibilities Evo:

 

[Evo1883]

Honestly lads I love my job good pension 4 days a week always home at night with the kids and decent pay ..I'm good , @Tommo1993 will tell you , its a good place to work

 

[NorthernWisdom]

Task and finish is in our contracts , not for much longer

That doesn't matter for what a manager can say. Contacts don't have to be adhered to literally unless somebody demands that

 

[David O'Day]

That doesn't matter for what a manager can say. Contacts don't have to be adhered to literally unless somebody demands that

isn't the issue that female council staff members are using it to put equal pay claims in?

 

[NorthernWisdom]

isn't the issue that female council staff members are using it to put equal pay claims in?

That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying change your contract, management say carry on as you were anyway, everybody's happy.

 

[Evo1883]

isn't the issue that female council staff members are using it to put equal pay claims in?

Male and female but yes

 

[Evo1883]

That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying change your contract, management say carry on as you were anyway, everybody's happy.

The only thing thay will change from today is I will have to leave 90 minutes later than I currently do

 

[David O'Day]

That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying change your contract, management say carry on as you were anyway, everybody's happy.

change to what? if they go home early it opens up the equal pay claims

 

[SBAndy]

change to what? if they go home early it opens up the equal pay claims

Can’t say I know enough about this whole ‘equal pay’ situation but is it inter-departmental?

 

[NorthernWisdom]

change to what? if they go home early it opens up the equal pay claims

It doesn't if it's management's decision to not notice that happening!

 

[David O'Day]

It doesn't if it's management's decision to not notice that happening!

how do you do that when someone is investigating a legal pay claim into it?

 

[Tommo1993]

Honestly lads I love my job good pension 4 days a week always home at night with the kids and decent pay ..I'm good , @Tommo1993 will tell you , its a good place to work

I miss it a lot mate. Gutted they couldn’t contract the last of us for a little bit longer. Just couldn’t live on that uncertainty.

 

[NorthernWisdom]

how do you do that when someone is investigating a legal pay claim into it?

The contract changes, they work under a new contract...

 

[Evo1883]

I miss it a lot mate. Gutted they couldn’t contract the last of us for a little bit longer. Just couldn’t live on that uncertainty.

They're all getting council contracts over the next few weeks .
Tom White going pretty much

 

[Tommo1993]

They're all getting council contracts over the next few weeks .
Tom White going pretty much

Bloody had a feeling that’d happen!

 

[shmmeee]

When I was a teen I was told there’s a waiting list to become a bin man, is that true? Is it a hard job to get into?

 

[Evo1883]

When I was a teen I was told there’s a waiting list to become a bin man, is that true? Is it a hard job to get into?

Well if I'm honest not many people leave that get contracts , it's hard to get council contracts normally , many blokes been there between 10 and 40 years

No waiting list though

 

[fernandopartridge]

When I was a teen I was told there’s a waiting list to become a bin man, is that true? Is it a hard job to get into?

If employed on local authority terms and with pension etc you can see the attraction

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[Evo1883]

If employed on local authority terms and with pension etc you can see the attraction

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The pension and terms and conditions are both very good imho