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Bids for McNulty / McNulty to Reading (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Jun 28, 2018
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ccfcway

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #106
Esoterica said:
If we're able to get a 7 figure sum for a guy we picked up on a free last year and who hasn't really proven himself at L1 level then it's good business if that gets reinvested in another striker.
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spot on !
 

zuni

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #107
how has adam armstrong gone on since leaving us?
 

Manchester_sky_blue

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #108
mark82 said:
It doesn't really suggest anything like that.
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Clubs don't talk about "meeting our valuation" unless they are looking to sell, or at the least, resigned to a player leaving.
 
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cooperskyblue

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #109
Manchester_sky_blue said:
Clubs don't talk about "meeting our valuation" unless they are looking to sell, or at the least, resigned to a player leaving.
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We don't know the club have said that, that is just what Sky Sports have speculated and I imagine that 500k is well under our valuation of him. Every play at every club has a value. I believe he will stay .
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #110
Liquid Gold said:
I want McNulty to stay but to say there would be no replacement available for the money is nonsense. McNulty was available on a free this time last year and Robins has always been good at picking up and building a team around a good goalscoring striker.
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Whilst that maybe true it would be nice to get out of the constant rebuilding every summer.
 
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Terry_dactyl

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #111
As much as I’d want him to sign a new contract and stay with us, if it’s a choice between selling him now or losing him for nothing next year, I think I’d look to sell him. It’s a ruthless business.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #112
fernandopartridge said:
Whilst that maybe true it would be nice to get out of the constant rebuilding every summer.
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Definitely. The preference would be to tie him down to a 3 year deal and get rid of any speculation.
 

better days

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #113
I believe that McNulty isn't pushing for a move
As far as I know Robins and his team have little interference from SISU and I expect that to continue while we have success. Robins is in a very strong position with the owners as his stock will be sky high
I suspect negotiations have been going on with McNulty and his representatives but don't forget we have SMCP financial fair play regulations to meet
We will make the best offer we can
If this is multiplied by four or five times by a Championship club then Robins will hold out for at least 7 figures in any transfer fee
I guess he's already planning for the different options
The club is in a very strong position whatever happens
Go back 18 months and where we are now would have been unimaginable
Players want to come here now
The goal for this year is another promotion so we have to look at the big picture
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #114
fernandopartridge said:
Whilst that maybe true it would be nice to get out of the constant rebuilding every summer.
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In an ideal world(!) we'd probably go the Charlton under Curbishley model, where the best players were sold to enable the squad as a whole to be improved, while also using some of the cash to pay running costs.

In our world, there's probably some pay-off where the cash at least allows us to hold out for better deals for other players in the squad.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #115
Anyway, I'd rather there was speculation about our players leaving for a fee than the alternative, where we can't give them away!
 
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Brylowes

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #116
Nick said:
I think the main thing is the unrest, if we were to give McNulty an extra 100k a year then other players would be asking questions about their pay rises. You would have thought there would have been a promotion clause in most of the new contracts to say they get a raise if we go up a league anyway.



Have a look at the gap between League One and the Championship average wage (This is from 2014 though), it's a massive jump.
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We’re 1st Division players really only earning 25k a year in 1985 ?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #117
Brylowes said:
We’re 1st Division players really only earning 25k a year in 1985 ?
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The better players were on more than that certainly, but as an average possibly. In 1992 Mick Quinn was on £1600 a weej
 

shmmeee

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #118
Brylowes said:
We’re 1st Division players really only earning 25k a year in 1985 ?
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Probably not taken inflation into account.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #119
Great stats those. Shows how daft the relegation was to league 2. Also that we should be able to compete relatively pain free
 

Gibbo

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #120
Nick said:
I think the main thing is the unrest, if we were to give McNulty an extra 100k a year then other players would be asking questions about their pay rises. You would have thought there would have been a promotion clause in most of the new contracts to say they get a raise if we go up a league anyway.



Have a look at the gap between League One and the Championship average wage (This is from 2014 though), it's a massive jump.
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Not sure SISU would like us to be a middling Championship team
 

JulianDarbyFTW

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #121
Gibbo said:
Not sure SISU would like us to be a middling Championship team
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I think they would. We'd be back where they found us, and on a better financial footing than when they took over. Sure, we have the whole Ricoh issue hanging over us, but that aside the club would be in a relatively positive position. And it only takes one fluke of a season to reach the promised land of milk and honey.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #122
Gibbo said:
Not sure SISU would like us to be a middling Championship team
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No it’s a year to try and do something and then sell
 

Colin Steins Smile

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #123
JulianDarbyFTW said:
I think they would. We'd be back where they found us, and on a better financial footing than when they took over. Sure, we have the whole Ricoh issue hanging over us, but that aside the club would be in a relatively positive position. And it only takes one fluke of a season to reach the promised land of milk and honey.
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Correct - In terms of control over the players wages, etc, but we've lost the option of purchasing 50% of the Ricoh from the Higgs Charity, when we went into administration. The lack of access to 7 day a week revenues from the ground is a barrier to any takeover.
 
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Magwitch

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #124
Isn’t Tim Fisher on record when we were in the championship basically saying we can’t afford to be in it, what’s changed ?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #125
Magwitch said:
Isn’t Tim Fisher on record when we were in the championship basically saying we can’t afford to be in it, what’s changed ?
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We aren't paying £1.2m rent for starters.
 
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Magwitch

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #126
I forgot that perhaps he had a point
 
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skybluesam66

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #127
fernandopartridge said:
The better players were on more than that certainly, but as an average possibly. In 1992 Mick Quinn was on £1600 a weej
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FA cup year
Keith houchen earnt 18k per his autobiography
Brian Borrows was 80k with bonuses
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #128
Magwitch said:
I forgot that perhaps he had a point
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I think the point is that the club's turnover in the Championship is at the mid-lower end anyway, as the club has limited revenue streams, that said, apparently the club turned over £15m in 2011/12 which is better than quite a few current Championship clubs (those figures were in the JR but don't sound right to me?)
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #129
fernandopartridge said:
I think the point is that the club's turnover in the Championship is at the mid-lower end anyway, as the club has limited revenue streams, that said, apparently the club turned over £15m in 2011/12 which is better than quite a few current Championship clubs (those figures were in the JR but don't sound right to me?)
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Did we sell anyone noteworthy?
 
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wingy

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #130
fernandopartridge said:
I think the point is that the club's turnover in the Championship is at the mid-lower end anyway, as the club has limited revenue streams, that said, apparently the club turned over £15m in 2011/12 which is better than quite a few current Championship clubs (those figures were in the JR but don't sound right to me?)
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We had one year where it was £11M I think with losses the same ?
 

torchomatic

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #131
Brylowes said:
We’re 1st Division players really only earning 25k a year in 1985 ?
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£70K in today's money. Also stuff was a lot cheaper then too.
 
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SkyBlueScottie

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #132
Magwitch said:
Isn’t Tim Fisher on record when we were in the championship basically saying we can’t afford to be in it, what’s changed ?
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Very true, Wolves posted a pre tax loss of 23 million last season, that kind of cash keeps us going for 4 or 5 years.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #133
wingy said:
Did we sell anyone noteworthy?
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Jutkiewicz was sold for £1.5m, can't think of anybody else
 
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Garryb80

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #134
So he has 2 more years on his contract then and not 1....
 

GaryJones

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #135
He signed a 2 year contract last July when he came.
One year left.
 
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Deleted member 4439

Guest
  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #136
GaryJones said:
He signed a 2 year contract last July when he came.
One year left.
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McNulty? Robins says its 2 years

Mark Robins has said this on the future of Coventry's Marc McNulty
 

Sky Blue Harry H

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #137
He said 1 more year, plus the club has a further year option, so that's 2 years - good news, and surely puts us in a strong position to hold out. We can always look at selling (if he wants to go) in a year's time and still get something for him. Also, offer him a few more quid now to keep him sweet. Absolutely no point selling now.
 
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Manchester_sky_blue

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #138
Sky Blue Harry H said:
He said 1 more year, plus the club has a further year option, so that's 2 years - good news, and surely puts us in a strong position to hold out. We can always look at selling (if he wants to go) in a year's time and still get something for him. Also, offer him a few more quid now to keep him sweet. Absolutely no point selling now.
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Oooh interesting, that changes things considerably!
 

Sky Blue Harry H

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #139
Manchester_sky_blue said:
Oooh interesting, that changes things considerably!
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Agree - with only one year left, the club has to decide to stick or twist if he didn't sign a new contract; the plus one year option in favour of the club kicks that decision another year down the line. Pointless selling now.
 

I_Saw_Shaw_Score

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #140
Not surprised McNultys heads been turned sure he’ll be off 12 months time and he’s only scored 6 goals in L1 for us he’ll be forgotten about, sure he’ll want to cash in on his career whilst his stocks high!
 
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