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ccfcricoh · Jul 6, 2018

Won't believe it until i see it! he was in training today which would be unlikely if deal was already done. no smoke without fire though...

In terms of replacements - other than Chaplin is there any other actual reported rumours or just pure speculation?! This talk of Crouch/McGoldrick/Armstrong... are these just plucked out of the air?!

pastythegreat · Jul 6, 2018

ccfcricoh said:
Won't believe it until i see it! he was in training today which would be unlikely if deal was already done. no smoke without fire though...

In terms of replacements - other than Chaplin is there any other actual reported rumours or just pure speculation?! This talk of Crouch/McGoldrick/Armstrong... are these just plucked out of the air?!

Well, if a deal has only just been struck for him then of course he'd of been training with us this morning. He was still our player this morning after all.
If you went for an interview for a job, would you not turn up to your current job for 2 week while waiting for an answer? No. So as of 9am this morning he's a cov player and turns up to work. At 2pm he's called into the office and leaves. Not hard is it!

Disclaimer ** Not saying this is what has happened, just pointing out that your logic of him NOT leaving is flawed.

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I_Saw_Shaw_Score · Jul 6, 2018

I am surprised there is only 1 side in for him though

ccfcricoh · Jul 6, 2018

pastythegreat said:
Well, if a deal has only just been struck for him then of course he'd of been training with us this morning. He was still our player this morning after all.
If you went for an interview for a job, would you not turn up to your current job for 2 week while waiting for an answer? No. So as of 9am this morning he's a cov player and turns up to work. At 2pm he's called into the office and leaves. Not hard is it!

Disclaimer ** Not saying this is what has happened, just pointing out that your logic of him NOT leaving is flawed.

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Know what your saying but it's hardly "2 weeks" is it - I would be surprised if he "signed" today whilst kicking a ball about at Ryton...

Not saying that he won't be in Reading tomorrow and not at training though

**my disclaimer - dont know what time they train so could well have finished at lunch and be on his way down south now i suppose!

pusbccfc · Jul 6, 2018

Grendel said:
But according to you Biamou is so I guess he will fill the void

Never said that. Stop waffling.

pastythegreat · Jul 6, 2018

ccfcricoh said:
Know what your saying but it's hardly "2 weeks" is it - I would be surprised if he "signed" today whilst kicking a ball about at Ryton...

Not saying that he won't be in Reading tomorrow and not at training though

**my disclaimer - dont know what time they train so could well have finished at lunch and be on his way down south now i suppose!

I'm not saying he's signed mid way through a training session. I'm saying at 9am this morning the club had refused a £600k offer so he was still on our payroll and at training for us. In the background (robins office) there's all sorts going on. Looking at players, looking at tactics, speaking to players/clubs they want to sign. And who's to say that Robins didn't receive a call at 2pm with an offer of £1.5m that he then accepted? McNulty already at training now has to leave to speak to Reading.

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hopesprings · Jul 6, 2018

fernandopartridge said:
Any examples of where a team prospers immediately after losing their top scorer? We've been relegated every time it has happened to us in my memory!

Think we did ok without Terry Bly/ then George Hudson went and Bobby Gould did ok. I am sure there will be other examples. it will be easier for a froward coming in to a positive squad playing well than if he was coming in as a saviour to a struggling relegation threatened team !
I also agree with other posters on here that he may struggle at Reading and in the Championship but he deserves his shot at it. Worked hard and tirelessly for us. professional footballers are always one injury from retirement Dean Ashton prime example you have to take the best offer you can when you can

pastythegreat · Jul 6, 2018

fernandopartridge said:
Any examples of where a team prospers immediately after losing their top scorer? We've been relegated every time it has happened to us in my memory!

We didn't prosper granted, but we wasn't relegated the season we lost Leon Clarke AND Callum Wilson. Just saying

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fernandopartridge · Jul 6, 2018

pastythegreat said:
Well, if a deal has only just been struck for him then of course he'd of been training with us this morning. He was still our player this morning after all.
If you went for an interview for a job, would you not turn up to your current job for 2 week while waiting for an answer? No. So as of 9am this morning he's a cov player and turns up to work. At 2pm he's called into the office and leaves. Not hard is it!

Disclaimer ** Not saying this is what has happened, just pointing out that your logic of him NOT leaving is flawed.

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If I was bidding for a player I'd ask that he didn't take part in training for fear of him being injured. Surely the player would also want to be shown around and agree personal terms (unless this has already been done?)

robbiekeane · Jul 6, 2018

fernandopartridge said:
If I was bidding for a player I'd ask that he didn't take part in training for fear of him being injured

And if I was the seller I’d say fuck off we don’t accept your offer. Until they met our asking price...

Deleted member 5849 · Jul 6, 2018

fernandopartridge said:
Any examples of where a team prospers immediately after losing their top scorer? We've been relegated every time it has happened to us in my memory!

Everton won the title the year after they flogged Lineker.

pastythegreat · Jul 6, 2018

robbiekeane said:
And if I was the seller I’d say fuck off we don’t accept your offer. Until they met our asking price...

This

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ccfcricoh · Jul 6, 2018

pastythegreat said:
I'm not saying he's signed mid way through a training session. I'm saying at 9am this morning the club had refused a £600k offer so he was still on our payroll and at training for us. In the background (robins office) there's all sorts going on. Looking at players, looking at tactics, speaking to players/clubs they want to sign. And who's to say that Robins didn't receive a call at 2pm with an offer of £1.5m that he then accepted? McNulty already at training now has to leave to speak to Reading.

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Yep maybe - will see when/if announced!

Wonder what the normal process is - agree terms with the player first or the club...

Will McNulty have agreed a contract in principle with Reading based on the club accepting the offer, or would they wait until club accepted offer first and then start player negotiations...

robbiekeane said:
And if I was the seller I’d say fuck off we don’t accept your offer. Until they met our asking price...

What's the benefit of having him in training if he's leaving? If he's already accepted terms and we are receiving ever increasing offers, pretty obvious he's not going to be here at the start of the season... if he hasn't agreed terms with them then he won't sign for them today as he's been at training!

Funny because none of us know what is happening, but this Uruguay France game is shite so rather speculate and "discuss" on here!

pastythegreat · Jul 6, 2018

ccfcricoh said:
Yep maybe - will see when/if announced!

Wonder what the normal process is - agree terms with the player first or the club...

Will McNulty have agreed a contract in principle with Reading based on the club accepting the offer, or would they wait until club accepted offer first and then start player negotiations...

What's the benefit of having him in training if he's leaving? If he's already accepted terms and we are receiving ever increasing offers, pretty obvious he's not going to be here at the start of the season... if he hasn't agreed terms with them then he won't sign for them today as he's been at training!

Funny because none of us know what is happening, but this Uruguay France game is shite so rather speculate and "discuss" on here!

I think it's agree terms with the club then the player. Not 100% but I'm sure it's illegal for a team to speak with a player under contract without permission.

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Nick · Jul 6, 2018

That's how it's meant to be! Agents will know full well What's offer

eastwoodsdustman · Jul 6, 2018

Can we start calling him Mcnumpty yet?

pastythegreat · Jul 6, 2018

eastwoodsdustman said:
Can we start calling him Mcnumpty yet?

I think a few ppls auto correct never stopped did they??

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AFCCOVENTRY · Jul 6, 2018

jordan210 said:
As you think everyone is average or below.

Who would you recommend as a McNulty replacement ?

Love to hear what Grendals scouting tips are to replace McNulty?!

better days · Jul 6, 2018

ccfcricoh said:
Yep maybe - will see when/if announced!

Wonder what the normal process is - agree terms with the player first or the club...

Will McNulty have agreed a contract in principle with Reading based on the club accepting the offer, or would they wait until club accepted offer first and then start player negotiations...

What's the benefit of having him in training if he's leaving? If he's already accepted terms and we are receiving ever increasing offers, pretty obvious he's not going to be here at the start of the season... if he hasn't agreed terms with them then he won't sign for them today as he's been at training!

Funny because none of us know what is happening, but this Uruguay France game is shite so rather speculate and "discuss" on here!

What ,may have happened is that after we refused the 'final' £600k offer Reading came back and offered something nearer what we were asking for
In those circumstances a player will often be allowed to open discussions with the club making the bid - he may have gone down on Wednesday which is the usual day off

AFCCOVENTRY · Jul 6, 2018

It was Accringtons boss who said MM is great in L2 and he knows scouts from Championship were looking at him but there biggest concern is his fitness to cope at that level. Interesting comments, but let's see if he makes he jump from L2 to Championship. Helped us get out of L2 and good luck to him.

Grendel · Jul 6, 2018

AFCCOVENTRY said:
Love to hear what Grendals scouting tips are to replace McNulty?!

You started a thread saying how shite he was didnt you?

covcity4life · Jul 6, 2018

AFCCOVENTRY said:
Love to hear what Grendals scouting tips are to replace McNulty?!

The person that we don't sign is my guess

skybluetony176 · Jul 6, 2018

AFCCOVENTRY said:
Love to hear what Grendals scouting tips are to replace McNulty?!

He’s probably too excited because Max has just signed a 3 year deal and he is safe in the knowledge that we no longer need a replacement for McNaulty. We just need someone to play alongside Max.

ccfclinney · Jul 6, 2018

I don’t think Mcnulty would Be good enough for the championship massive step up compared to league one and league 2 football. I think 1.5 Million is a very good deal. Just need to get the right replacement in.

AFCCOVENTRY · Jul 6, 2018

Grendel said:
You started a thread saying how shite he was didnt you?

Haha... I admitted he came good.

But answer my question. Who would be a good replacement to bring in to replace MM? Surely you can offer up your scouting tips??

Cranfield Sky Blue · Jul 6, 2018

But it’s not a done deal yet is it?

Thank you from a confused old bloke!

Liquid Gold · Jul 6, 2018

Cranfield Sky Blue said:
But it’s not a done deal yet is it?

Thank you from a confused old bloke!

No, not done but everything points to it just being a matter of time.

skybluepm2 · Jul 6, 2018

I very much doubt Robins would let him leave the building without having somewhat of a replacement lined up. This is the man who persevered with him when a lot of us were of the opinion he couldn’t hit a cows arse with a banjo.

Last weekends speech at the kit launch sort of gave us an indication that he was looking to move to bigger and better things. Has he used us as a springboard? Perhaps. Has he jumped ship to treble his wages? Perhaps. Could he have taken on an improved contract, inserted a clause to leave if we don’t achieve promotion within 12 months? Perhaps.

If he leaves, this will leave an extremely bitter taste in the majority, if not all of our mouths but we aren’t a one man club. There is something good happening here and just because he fucks off it doesn’t mean that it has to come to an abrupt end. I firmly believe that Robins will make it right. If he is unsettled and thinks he’s bigger than the club, we are better off without him, as much as it pains me to say that. Plus, £2m should’ve been the absolute minimum release clause!

AFCCOVENTRY · Jul 6, 2018

skybluepm2 said:
I very much doubt Robins would let him leave the building without having somewhat of a replacement lined up. This is the man who persevered with him when a lot of us were of the opinion he couldn’t hit a cows arse with a banjo.

Last weekends speech at the kit launch sort of gave us an indication that he was looking to move to bigger and better things. Has he used us as a springboard? Perhaps. Has he jumped ship to treble his wages? Perhaps. Could he have taken on an improved contract, inserted a clause to leave if we don’t achieve promotion within 12 months? Perhaps.

If he leaves, this will leave an extremely bitter taste in the majority, if not all of our mouths but we aren’t a one man club. There is something good happening here and just because he fucks off it doesn’t mean that it has to come to an abrupt end. I firmly believe that Robins will make it right. If he is unsettled and thinks he’s bigger than the club, we are better off without him, as much as it pains me to say that. Plus, £2m should’ve been the absolute minimum release clause!

I think most people will realise going from L2 to the Championship is fair enough. He got us the goals to get out of the league and he has got a bumper pay day and opportunity to play at a high level.

skybluepm2 · Jul 6, 2018

AFCCOVENTRY said:
I think most people will realise going from L2 to the Championship is fair enough. He got us the goals to get out of the league and he has got a bumper pay day and opportunity to play at a high level.

Yep. Although now only League 1 to Championship

Nick · Jul 6, 2018

As we saw with Stevenson, once an agent gets a whiff of cash and sells it to the player there's no stopping them contract or not.

Stevenson had his dad pulling sickies because he wanted to force a move.

Once that starts it's a case of just try and get as much as you can for them because then if you block it then the power the agents and player have is way too much. They just start playing silly buggers.

Mcnultys agent is apparently having a hot line to the media to force it through

Liquid Gold · Jul 6, 2018

Nick said:
As we saw with Stevenson, once an agent gets a whiff of cash and sells it to the player there's no stopping them contract or not.

Stevenson had his dad pulling sickies because he wanted to force a move.

Once that starts it's a case of just try and get as much as you can for them because then if you block it then the power the agents and player have is way too much. They just start playing silly buggers.

Mcnultys agent is apparently having a hot line to the media to force it through

The club should say to him if he wants to go put a transfer request in and lose out on his loyalty bonus.

Astute · Jul 6, 2018

oldskyblue58 said:
Indeed they did in season 2016/17, ours was £4.45m. It would be reasonable to expect wage costs in the championship to have continued to rise

the bottom ten clubs in season 2016/17 had the following wages costs
24th Rotherham 8.7m (relegated)
23rd Wigan 16.6m (relegated)
22nd Blackburn 22m (relegated)
21st Notts Forest 28.6m
20th Burton 7.7m
19th Birmingham 22.2m
18th QPR 27.7m
17th Bristol City 17.9m
16th Ipswich 17.8m
15th Wolves 28.2m

on average they spent 19.7m simply trying to stay in the division and that doesn't include transfer fees

It would be a big jump in costs even to Burton's level. Where does that money come from? How does the club compete with the wages packages it can pay when clubs will pay more and players expect more

All I can say is well done Burton.

gspotgaz · Jul 6, 2018

Such a shame if he goes, really thought we were gunna keep him after last season ended so well. He’ll be a tough one to replace, we’ll need 2 more strikers I feel as JCH and max don’t fill me with confidence

Nick · Jul 6, 2018

Liquid Gold said:
The club should say to him if he wants to go put a transfer request in and lose out on his loyalty bonus.

The shouldn't be one anyway for an engineered move.

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