Grendel
Well-Known Member
And we sold £4m - at least some people in Barnsley appear to have a brain anyway
we sold £9M worth of players, to balance the books, we would have done the same without promotion, them on that forum are bigger lunatics than you pal.
we sold £9M worth of players, to balance the books, we would have done the same without promotion, them on that forum are bigger lunatics than you pal.
I'm certainly no expert on this, but *I think* what G is trying to point out is that the way your club is operating is not too dissimilar to a fair few other clubs and that just one relegation and a subsequent missing out on L1 promotion would leave you in a poor situation.
Relying on selling off assets, although good / helpful in the short term (re: us), is a risky strategy I guess.
I'm assuming the good bit of your accounts is the fact you're currently competing above the level that your player wages suggest you should be.
makes no difference, the club is recruiting quality young players that are regularly developed into better players and sold on for big profits, to balance the books and reinvest. It’s working perfectly even when relegated.
I'm certainly no expert on this, but *I think* what G is trying to point out is that the way your club is operating is not too dissimilar to a fair few other clubs and that just one relegation and a subsequent missing out on L1 promotion would leave you in a poor situation.
Relying on selling off assets, although good / helpful in the short term (re: us), is a risky strategy I guess.
I'm assuming the good bit of your accounts is the fact you're currently competing above the level that your player wages suggest you should be.
Obviously it’s risky, and other club’s are doing the same because it’s the only way to go, without running up massive debts, or outside investment, my point still stands though we’re running on the money the club generates and we’re doing well at it due to the right recruitment and coaching.I think you've missed the point on what I said.
I don't doubt that is what is currently occurring and no one is doubting that Barnsley are currently doing very well.
It's just that as a business strategy for being sustainable, it's risky and can backfire. It's also what a lot of other clubs are doing / trying to do.
I'm certainly no expert on this, but *I think* what G is trying to point out is that the way your club is operating is not too dissimilar to a fair few other clubs and that just one relegation and a subsequent missing out on L1 promotion would leave you in a poor situation.
Relying on selling off assets, although good / helpful in the short term (re: us), is a risky strategy I guess.
I'm assuming the good bit of your accounts is the fact you're currently competing above the level that your player wages suggest you should be.
Depends how you see it. Are you selling off assets or are you making money by buying players and improving them, in which case they’re stock more than assets.
Depends how you see it. Are you selling off assets or are you making money by buying players and improving them, in which case they’re stock more than assets.
That’s the key difference to the business model. We take players in (either through direct recruitment or through the academy system), carry out a value-adding exercise and then hope to sell for a profit. The supplier is unreliable and can sometimes send you complete toffee, but for the most part in recent times the good outweighs the bad.
So read the 31 pages of Barnsley’s accounts and tell me where they lack transparency - it’s my year end in March and I’ll be reviewing with my accountant shortly - are you suggesting they are lying about wages turnover and transfer fees which are the key YOY variances?
Oh I forgot - you haven’t read them
makes no difference, the club is recruiting quality young players that are regularly developed into better players and sold on for big profits, to balance the books and reinvest. It’s working perfectly even when relegated.
But all it takes it a season or two of doing that and getting it wrong and you can suffer. It'd be a double whammy because if they don't work out not only can you not sell them for big profits but poor performance on the pitch could result in relegation and loss of income there as well.
It's risky and don't assume you'll always get it right. What if the coaching staff get recognised for their ability to bring on these players and get nabbed by a bigger fish? Someone offers them a big wage increase for doing the same job and they'll likely take it.
We change our coaching staff every season just about, We seem to be getting recruitment right every season be it coaches, players, and so on , the recruitment committee own the club so they’ll not be nabbed.
Our problems will start again when we have to let 5or6 go at the same time again like in summer 2019
We change our coaching staff every season just about.
Our problems will start again when we have to let 5or6 go at the same time again
In that case it's even riskier as not only are you relying on getting player recruitment right but also coach recruitment.
Yes but their track record of both is very very good.
Lol. Exactly what everyone is saying; that's the risk isn't it.
Changing your coaching staff nearly every season hardly sounds like a long term future plan.
They'll definitely always get it right then...
on the playing side we recruit for both the first team and U23s every summer so we seem to always have some one stepping up, with the coaching side we’re scouting for them all the time, if one doesn’t work out we move on to the next, and he’ll be someone who works well with the type of players we recruit.
Genius. Other football clubs should follow suit.
You should try our system.makes no difference, the club is recruiting quality young players that are regularly developed into better players and sold on for big profits, to balance the books and reinvest. It’s working perfectly even when relegated.
I really hope they go upBump thread,
Barnsley now in play off spot.
On a great run.
I really hope they go up
It would nice to see a club, that wasn’t expected to go up, to go up. To see one of the small fry in this league outcompete the big spenders who try and spend their way to the top. It would give us a hope as a club that we can compete in this league on a tiny budget.Why?
It would nice to see a club, that wasn’t expected to go up, to go up. To see one of the small fry in this league outcompete the big spenders who try and spend their way to the top. It would give us a hope as a club that we can compete in this league on a tiny budget.
It would nice to see a club, that wasn’t expected to go up, to go up. To see one of the small fry in this league outcompete the big spenders who try and spend their way to the top. It would give us a hope as a club that we can compete in this league on a tiny budget.
Good on Barnselona.
Despite the detractors (including some on here) it again shows the importance of data analytics & how teams can really punch above their weight as a result.
Hopefully today puts to bed the idea that James was a waste of budget, he can play alongside Kelly.
Ben Sheaf however may impact on next year's budget, that is unless of course he develops the more he plays.
Hardly - James until today has had zero impact on results - what an odd thing to say
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