No, agree. The debacle for me is that of the club playing home games 34 miles away when there's a perfectly decent stadium already here in Coventry.
It was the owners who moved us out of the City and this should never ever have happened and I honestly believe that it didn't need to happen. Sisu should have dug their heels in and thrashed out something in terms of a deal that kept us playing our home games here at the Ricoh.
There was a deal to be done. Even a very short term deal could have been arranged while further negotiations were taking place.
Takes me ages to cross the road bad foot,sometimes the lights can change ten times before I get across :facepalm:
There's evidence Robinson went to ask but got nowhere but PWKH didn't class that was "whole hearted" so make of that what you will.
I'd love to know about the finer details of the original rent negotiation. PWKH has been on here and stated that the club turned down the offer of a sliding scale, as they thought they'd be back in the Prem soon and it wouldn't be worth while. He also said that until Sisu no-one seriously asked for a new deal. There's evidence Robinson went to ask but got nowhere but PWKH didn't class that was "whole hearted" so make of that what you will. Similarly, when Leonard Brody went to the papers saying the rent was killing the club Igwe and Delieu went public stating how it wasn't and that they are happy with it. So I find it a little hard to feel too sorry for the club here.
WRT how the council dropping the rent like they did. Well firstly, how you imagine things going when you first open and how things are going 7 years later are two different things. Circumstances changed significantly for both ACL and CCFC in that time. IIRC the original sliding scale had a level of roughly £400k/year in L1, maybe even less, I'm not sure. But as I say the original rent was too high and a negotiation was needed long ago.
The move from £400k to £150k was for two reasons: firstly the £400k offer included access to ACL's books for FFP reasons (and I think other revenue but am not 100% and some say it didn't). Secondly when the Sisu deal for ACL's mortgage fell through the restructured loan with CCC meant that the finances were better off and that ACL could offer a deal that isn't commercially viable but recognised the value the club has to the community/project as a whole.
At the end of the day, no matter what you think of them politically, the likes of Mutton and Lucas for CCC and the Higgs' ARE Coventry City fans. None of them want to see the club hurt. In fact that was Mutton's downfall as he stupidly thought he could engineer a situation where Sisu left the club and rightfully he fell on his sword.
I also find it slightly funny how you want nothing to do with the council because they didn't cut the rent fast enough, but will give a pass to Sisu who defended the rent figure and also moved the club out of the city. Like I say not judging, I just find it interesting that people on both sides will accept some behaviour and not others.
And I need someone to tie the laces on my Velcro shoes...
Something is needed that will bring all sides together. Stopping innocent people from getting on with their lives won't help.
The way I see it is one side is willing to talk. The other side wants anything but to talk through their differences. The big problem we have is it is the side that can make things happen.
Sounds like a great idea. When does the chanting start at 6Fields?
disagree as both sides have stated they have 'moved on'. I don't believe it for a second but when/if that first brick is laid maybe we will all change our stance but time will tell. The point is, we as fans cannot influence this but we can show our frustration in numbers, if that is stopping people going to town for an hour, so be it.
I'll wear my slip ons easier to tie
disagree as both sides have stated they have 'moved on'. I don't believe it for a second but when/if that first brick is laid maybe we will all change our stance but time will tell. The point is, we as fans cannot influence this but we can show our frustration in numbers, if that is stopping people going to town for an hour, so be it.
Well I heard a rumour today looks like they will have to build that new stadium now?
So some would have a go at people standing on the hill to protest and take the piss out of them...........and then say they would join them if there was many more doing it? :thinking about:
SISUE have stated that the boat has sailed....but the last we heard from Timothy was there could be a rental agreement to be made. CCC have always been ready to talk.
Well I heard a rumour today looks like they will have to build that new stadium now?
You've heard these rumours a lot haven't you?
Plastic hillgoers. Turn up, claim its a mountain, you never see them again when it's just a little mound.
Plastic hillgoers. Turn up, claim its a mountain, you never see them again when it's just a little mound.
You'll never see the back of us.
Plastic hillgoers. Turn up, claim its a mountain, you never see them again when it's just a little mound.
We support the team, not the move.
So long as they turn up even once I would love it.
They'd turn up with their Starbucks coffees and deckchairs, talk about the last time they were sat on a hill back in '83, ask where the toilet is and then sod off making you feel empty and used.
They'd turn up with their Starbucks coffees and deckchairs, talk about the last time they were sat on a hill back in '83, ask where the toilet is and then sod off making you feel empty and used.
The only hill they would have been on in 83 was the Spion Kop. Where were you at HR?
I can safely say this particular piece of satire hasn't worked...:thinking about:
Back in 83 I was pissing my nappy and shouting for Mummy.
Just left school y'see.
Yes, you're a considerably better fan than me:jerkit:Perhaps you haven't got a real feel for our history yet? What it all means to be moved to Northampton by people totally disconnected to our club.
Yes, you're a considerably better fan than me:jerkit:
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