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Lampard and Austin have got some big decisions to make over the next three days before the transfer window closes.

The squad still looks short in a few areas, particularly at left back and left wing, and unless we address them, I think there is a real danger we go straight back down.

It was obvious at the end of last season that we needed two good options in every position, while also moving on players who are not going to be good enough at this level and will take up places in the 25 man squad.

BTA is the obvious one for me. I just do not think he is good enough for a Premier League squad.
When he plays on the left he does not stay wide, rarely takes his full-back on, does not create enough and gives the ball away too often.
As many people have said on here, he is not particularly effective as a striker or No.10 either, and I do not think he offers enough as a winger. Although he has similar physical attributes to EMC, he is nowhere near as much of a threat in 1v1 situations, and his positioning and decision making are often frustrating, particularly when he drifts inside and makes it harder for the No.10 to find space.
He might be a great lad and good around the dressing room, but that cannot be enough at this level.
If the club can sell him or send him out on loan and bring in a better left winger to compete with EMC, we should do it.

Left back is another one. That should have been one of the priorities as soon as the window opened. Lampard and Austin have known for months that we needed two players there who are good enough for the Premier League.
Brau going out on loan makes sense, but Bidwell also needs to be moved on as soon as possible rather than taking up one of the 25 man squad places.

The problem is moving some of these players on. Bidwell, Woolfenden, Kitching, Lati, Eccles, BTA and Simms could all be on wages that Championship clubs will be reluctant to pay. But this is where the club has to be ruthless. If Lampard does not see them as part of his plans, that needs to be made clear to the players and their agents so they can start actively looking for moves elsewhere.
Some of them might be great professionals and popular in the dressing room, but we cannot pick a Premier League squad mainly on who is a good character.
We need enough quality, competition and depth to give ourselves a proper chance of being competitive at this level and staying up.

If we are serious about survival, there should be no room for sentiment. Some difficult decisions have to be made and we must have higher standards and expectations.

There were some worrying things tactically as well.
As Fernando Partridge said, at times it looked like we had gone back to the team that lost the play off to Sunderland. Lots of sideways passing, then eventually a cross, and nowhere near enough vertical passing or players trying to play between the lines.

For the first Premier League home game, I thought the lack of movement, tempo and intensity was really disappointing. You would have expected everyone to be flying into it, but far too much of our play was slow, predictable and easy to defend against.

Grimes being left as the last man when we lose possession is going to get punished at this level. Hopefully Lampard makes sure it does not happen again.

I am not saying everything is suddenly a disaster after a couple of games, but there are definitely some warning signs.

Hopefully the rumours about Ashley Cole coming in as a coach are true. His knowledge and experience should help improve the defence and, in particular, help the younger defenders develop and reach their potential.

Lampard and Austin have only got a few days left to improve the squad and I think the decisions they make now could have a big say in whether we give ourselves a chance of staying up.
 
In fairness out of the two Da Silva seems to have stepped up a lot better than MVE.

Worrying when RB seems to be the bigger problem so far!

Da silva has done well so far.
The difference is their decision making. JDS tends to make the right pass and keep hold of the ball. Milan positioning is dreadful at times, got away with it last year with his pace to recover.
 
Agree that BTA should be sold. Will get good money for him and he showed today that he can’t play on the wing in the PL. we have better AM too. I would have said today that getting a LB was a priority over LW, but we were practically playing with 10 men today when BTA was on. The left side was just closed off as an option. With EMC’s injury record a back up is a must.
 
Definitely haven't seen enough from some players to be confident we'll win 10 or more games this season. Feels like we need to apply some hidden tactical genius to what we've got or make one or two big splashes in the next few days.
 
In fairness out of the two Da Silva seems to have stepped up a lot better than MVE.

Worrying when RB seems to be the bigger problem so far!

Da silva has done well so far.
MVE and Tchaouna have zero chemistry.
 
Too late. Missed our players peak prices.

This was the summer we needed to do total surgery on the team but missed it
Too sentimental. In a world where the likes of George Hirst sell for £10 million, we could have offloaded so many for decent money. We've completely fucked it.
 
I do find it curious that there seems to be little interest in our players. Key players from a championship winning team - yet noone wants them!
 
I do find it curious that there seems to be little interest in our players. Key players from a championship winning team - yet noone wants them!
We've chose to keep them, Lampard has mentioned the likes of BTA by name as deserving a chance in the Prem. Geezer should be nowhere near it in reality.
 
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Can't believe we didn't sell one or two to raise some transfer funds for a few additional signings
 
Our whole policy has failed - we can’t score at home against the the lowest ranked team promoted to the premiership - as a team a car crash - sorry but it is true and next week Man City ..
 
Bournemouth and Brighton set the blueprint. You don't hold sentiment and you go for it spending wise.
Forest did it
Sunderland did the same

You absolutely must push the boat out, get rid of those not good enough and you stay up.

Worst case scenario and you go down you have Parachute payments, and 1 big sale and you're sound

To still have the amount of players we do from the championship is an indication of a poor window
 
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I know we are doing things the COV way but I think its clear now that we have misjudged this window. I've said in other threads that it isnt possible to cover all positions with the required quality in one window, and we have spent decent money, and on some good talent.

The only new addition for me, where the jury is still out, is Hamer. Be kinder to judge when he is fit. All the others are following a model.

This is not hindsight, players we had to move on were pretty obvious the day we were promoted, and nothing has changed:
Bidwell, Woolf, Kitching, Lati, Eccles, Torp, Simms, Wright, BTA, Rapha, Brau (gone but only on loan sadly)

Of the others
MVE is finding the step up harder than I thought,
Rudoni needs to get fitter,
Rushworth not himself at all so far,
Tats won't make the level

The only ones who have shown they possibly can are JDS and EMC.

I learned the hard way in business. Loyalty to nice but underperfoming people only leads to one outcome - Frank, beware...
 
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We've chose to keep them, Lampard has mentioned the likes of BTA by name as deserving a chance in the Prem. Geezer should be nowhere near it in reality.

I wonder how much is "sentimentality" vs DK/FL realising the overhaul needed is just too big to do in one window.
 
I wonder how much is "sentimentality" vs DK/FL realising the overhaul needed is just too big to do in one window.
Possibly, but there's probably 50m of 'asset' not up to the PL which would have funded 2/3/4 decent options, depending on how your slice the pie.
 
All we kept hearing from Doug was the team who got us to the PL deserve a chance, surely its about having the ability to perform as a PL player. Our speed of getting players out has been dreadful even on loan, lati/woolf/asante/wilson/eccles and JDS all should have gone in the summer.

The signings didnt get most of us excited, players who did things 5 years back or are unproven in the PL will always be a risk

Cant see anything happening tomorrow
 
If you told me we could sign two more players now in any position I'm genuinely not sure I could tell you which two I'd want. Holes all over the pitch.
It’s got to be a winger and a cm

We need a winner in CM who’s not intimidated by top players
 
It’s not fucking Love Island.

Played 2 games together ffs.
I was using the FIFA terminology for you kids.

They have played friendlies together too and train together every day. It will happen, it's just not that instant partnership that Milan and Sakamoto had, when they instinctively knew what each other were going to do right from the off.
 
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I was using the FIFA terminology for you kids.

They have played friendlies together too.
and trained for nearly 2 monthsz

well sub the week where they all went on holiday
 
It’s got to be a winger and a cm

We need a winner in CM who’s not intimidated by top players
I think we need a winger who can play both sides and ideally good enough to start on either the right or the left. Really tough ask though. For all the talk of physicality we felt very slow today.
 
I think we need a winger who can play both sides and ideally good enough to start on either the right or the left. Really tough ask though. For all the talk of physicality we felt very slow today.
Gboho available for £10m is have rather have us gambled on him.

We’ve made no loans, no free transfers just odd window
 
Bournemouth and Brighton set the blueprint. You don't hold sentiment and you go for it spending wise.
Forest did it
Sunderland did the same

You absolutely must push the boat out, get rid of those not good enough and you stay up.

Worst case scenario and you go down you have Parachute payments, and 1 big sale and you're sound

To still have the amount of players we do from the championship is an indication of a poor window
The club have never been ruthless enough and it’s felt like a charity at times. We held onto sheaf who was always injured, for to long and sold for less than what we rumoured could have got at one point. We let COH leave on a free after rehabbing him for a year. Jodi Jones, nearly 3 seasons missed?

Fast forward to today and we still have alot of players that I wouldn’t trust in the championship let alone prem. The advantage we’ve got is it’s a ‘championship winning squad’ so we should be playing on that.

We needed a positive start in the prem which hasn’t happened. Doesn’t help the club leave everything till last minute and have new signings that aren’t fit. Quite clear Lampard doesn’t fancy Simms and could have done with something off the bench today to replace Awoniyi, which could have been our new 20 something million pound forward Cherif, who’s apparently not fit.

Our recruitment can be strange sometimes.
 
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