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AOM

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  • Jul 20, 2021
  • #211
Greggs said:
how much did you pay for yours?
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Think about £300
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Jul 20, 2021
  • #212
On Saturday 23rd October you can watch Coventry City v Derby County for £30 or you can go to Warwick Arts Centre and see Sarah Millican for, you guessed it, £30.

One is supposed to be part of your identity, your heritage, something you love and experience with those closest to you, some of you have the badge and name or initials tattooed on your body. The other is a fat lass telling 'jokes'.

If a couple of quid makes all the difference then you shouldn't be spending the money on a day out at the football anyway.

A season ticket doesn't mean you have to go to every game. At these prices you could miss nearly half of them and still end up better off.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Jul 20, 2021
  • #213
Just having a gander online to see if they've put any tickets for sale yet and it looks like the uptake behind the goal isn't great. This is probably the best sold block.

 
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theferret

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  • Jul 20, 2021
  • #214
Liquid Gold said:
Just having a gander online to see if they've put any tickets for sale yet and it looks like the uptake behind the goal isn't great. This is probably the best sold block.

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From a standing start I suppose, no renewals in there, will take a while to change habits and I guess some people can't be arsed with moving. I expect it will be popular with match package holders and people who buy game by game. Will be good to see it occupied again certainly.
 

pusbccfc

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  • Jul 20, 2021
  • #215
theferret said:
You're talking about our wilderness years though. I take your point, but we've sold as many season tickets this season as our 1st Ricoh season when we averaged 21K. Pricing was fixed at £23 that season for all games, but it was 16 years ago. We were pulling in 24K against the likes of Luton and Crystal Palace back then.

The pricing for Cat A games will effect attendances, but hopefully not too much. We'll see.
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I agree. We've had some form of success in recent years. We're in a league with some big clubs. We've had 18 months without being in a stadium.

£25-30 is not bad but it will be used as an excuse for those who turned up at Wembley etc.
 
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Yorkshire SB

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  • Jul 20, 2021
  • #216
Liquid Gold said:
Just having a gander online to see if they've put any tickets for sale yet and it looks like the uptake behind the goal isn't great. This is probably the best sold block.

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Got ours there but had a look at this and reconsidering, think 29 was more full when I checked but not many.
Would be great to get a proper atmosphere behind there.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Jul 20, 2021
  • #217
Liquid Gold said:
Just having a gander online to see if they've put any tickets for sale yet and it looks like the uptake behind the goal isn't great. This is probably the best sold block.

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And the other blocks in that end are even more deserted. Can count on two hands the tickets sold in block 27.

Good news really. Keep the fans close together.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 20, 2021
  • #218
dubed said:
Those cheap tickets are just one-offs. First of all, it can't be commercial to sell at tenner a ticket. Second, as one-off opps people attend whereas no way would you have say, 3 times the amount buying a ticket at a tenner vs 1 at 25-30 over the season.

I'd be pretty sure the club will have done their analysis rather than having plucked a figure out of the air.
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Ita a really short sighted way of looking at the business model. I don’t blame the clubs, they all do it.
Liquid Gold said:
On Saturday 23rd October you can watch Coventry City v Derby County for £30 or you can go to Warwick Arts Centre and see Sarah Millican for, you guessed it, £30.

One is supposed to be part of your identity, your heritage, something you love and experience with those closest to you, some of you have the badge and name or initials tattooed on your body. The other is a fat lass telling 'jokes'.

If a couple of quid makes all the difference then you shouldn't be spending the money on a day out at the football anyway.

A season ticket doesn't mean you have to go to every game. At these prices you could miss nearly half of them and still end up better off.
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All the people who feel like that have season tickets. This is about attracting new and casual fans.
 
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ccfcchris

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  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #219
pusbccfc said:
Our first Play Offs, against Notts Country proves this wrong. 22-25 quid a ticket and fans didn't turn up.

Most of our big attendances at the Ricoh have been cheap tickets or a big away following.

We have a huge number of fans who jump on the bandwagon. They won't pay £30 for Derby at home.
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We're talking about far bigger teams than Notts County nowadays. Plus I think you have to take into account the anger against our owners is not as intense as it used to be. Those same fans who won't pay £30 for Derby at home will be scrambling for tickets on a good cup run or Wembly visit.
 

fatso

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  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #220
ccfcchris said:
We're talking about far bigger teams than Notts County nowadays. Plus I think you have to take into account the anger against our owners is not as intense as it used to be. Those same fans who won't pay £30 for Derby at home will be scrambling for tickets on a good cup run or Wembly visit.
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That's bloody obvious though, a massive cup game or a wembley visit is a once in a blue moon occasion, and a far bigger draw than fucking Derby!
I wouldn't count any anger against the owners either, the harsh reality is that too few people in and around Cov give enough of a fuck to spend the time and the money to actually attend matches.
It's not just the ticket price, but also car parking, beverages a program etc.
Coupled with the fact that the highlights are on line an hour after the game, why bother?

I used to love the atmosphere in the old west end at HR, you just dont get that anymore in today's "family friendly" sterile environments.
I say family friendly, but how many families can afford to go? That may explain why 3/4 of the ground is empty.

So, with no atmosphere and families priced out, greedy players and parasitic agents, is it any wonder that so many clubs are in financial crisis.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #221
fatso said:
That's bloody obvious though, a massive cup game or a wembley visit is a once in a blue moon occasion, and a far bigger draw than fucking Derby!
I wouldn't count any anger against the owners either, the harsh reality is that too few people in and around Cov give enough of a fuck to spend the time and the money to actually attend matches.
It's not just the ticket price, but also car parking, beverages a program etc.
Coupled with the fact that the highlights are on line an hour after the game, why bother?

I used to love the atmosphere in the old west end at HR, you just dont get that anymore in today's "family friendly" sterile environments.
I say family friendly, but how many families can afford to go? That may explain why 3/4 of the ground is empty.

So, with no atmosphere and families priced out, greedy players and parasitic agents, is it any wonder that so many clubs are in financial crisis.
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The thing is, football is an experience and anyone who prefers to watch the highlights after the game or the match on TV can't be compared to those who go to the match.

Watching football on TV isn't the same as going. The match is about the day out, seeing friends, getting behind the players. That's what you don't get by watching on sky.
 

NortonSkyBlue

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  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #222
fatso said:
That's bloody obvious though, a massive cup game or a wembley visit is a once in a blue moon occasion, and a far bigger draw than fucking Derby!
I wouldn't count any anger against the owners either, the harsh reality is that too few people in and around Cov give enough of a fuck to spend the time and the money to actually attend matches.
It's not just the ticket price, but also car parking, beverages a program etc.
Coupled with the fact that the highlights are on line an hour after the game, why bother?

I used to love the atmosphere in the old west end at HR, you just dont get that anymore in today's "family friendly" sterile environments.
I say family friendly, but how many families can afford to go? That may explain why 3/4 of the ground is empty.

So, with no atmosphere and families priced out, greedy players and parasitic agents, is it any wonder that so many clubs are in financial crisis.
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That’s one point of view. The other is our club is returning to its city, is on the rise with a great manager and a vibrant team with prospects of improving year on year, decent merchandising, good season ticket pricing, a fan base that has stuck with them through the toughest of times and don’t remember the West End and its “Yellow Wall“ style status and do their best to raise an atmosphere in this stadium that if everybody that is a Coventry City fan could be bothered to go would be electric and would be rushing home to see the highlights on the TV.
 
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fatso

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  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #223
pusbccfc said:
The thing is, football is an experience and anyone who prefers to watch the highlights after the game or the match on TV can't be compared to those who go to the match.

Watching football on TV isn't the same as going. The match is about the day out, seeing friends, getting behind the players. That's what you don't get by watching on sky.
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I agree, but the fact is, that experience clearly isn't worth the money to many people.
If it was, we wouldn't of closed 3 of the 4 stands!
 

pusbccfc

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  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #224
fatso said:
I agree, but the fact is, that experience clearly isn't worth the money to many people.
If it was, we wouldn't of closed 3 of the 4 stands!
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Spot on. We have a catchment area of 750,000. Many would say they have some form of attachment to CCFC but not enough care.

Years of garbage didn't help.
 

COV

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  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #225
fatso said:
I agree, but the fact is, that experience clearly isn't worth the money to many people.
If it was, we wouldn't of closed 3 of the 4 stands!
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Rubbish, we closed the stands as we were shite week in and week out and sunk to the lowest point in our entire history- nobody wanted to watch the endless garbage

I know nobody will change your mind as you’re one of the “those were the days” brigade, but give it a run at promotion and you’ll find any worries about the “matchday experience” would mysteriously disappear and people would be falling over themselves to get tickets
 
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COV

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  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #226
pusbccfc said:
Spot on. We have a catchment area of 750,000. Many would say they have some form of attachment to CCFC but not enough care.

Years of garbage didn't help.
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Catchment area is completely irrelevant unless you give them a reason to be interested and come along to games
 

ccfc92

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  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #227
If anything would of kickstarted ST sales for CCFC, you'd of thought it'd be 18 months with no/restricted crowds due to a global pandemic!

*appreciate some people with financial/health issues may be unable to go/buy a ST.
 
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ccfcchris

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  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #228
Maybe it might be time to stop worrying about people who moan about the cost of a ticket all the time. Their choice not to come and good luck to them. If our success and quality of football keep improving then we'll attract new fans.
I'm aware that some fans have tight budgets but that will probably be the case no matter what is charged.
 
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fatso

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  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #229
riyadhskyblue said:
That’s one point of view. The other is our club is returning to its city, is on the rise with a great manager and a vibrant team with prospects of improving year on year, decent merchandising, good season ticket pricing, a fan base that has stuck with them through the toughest of times and don’t remember the West End and its “Yellow Wall“ style status and do their best to raise an atmosphere in this stadium that if everybody that is a Coventry City fan could be bothered to go would be electric and would be rushing home to see the highlights on the TV.
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But, I'll reiterate, we have returned to the city before, we sold out our return game, then attendances declined to the extent that only 1 stand was open, and even that was rarely full.

We have to accept that we have a hard core fan base of around10-12k that's it, and we have a stadium that holds 30k+
Coventry is a big city, but honestly, how many of the locals actually follow the club.
I'm sure we will do well in a cup final or play off game, because that represents a big day out, but Preston at home on a cold wet night wont attract more than 12k max.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #230
COV said:
Catchment area is completely irrelevant unless you give them a reason to be interested and come along to games
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It’s hardly irrelevant
 

COV

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  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #231
Grendel said:
It’s hardly irrelevant
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It is irrelevant if you do not have a product that anyone wants (hate to use the corporate lingo).

Get yourself a product, ie a team that people want to watch, that’s when your catchment area becomes relevant as you see what you could aim at and budget for.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #232
fatso said:
But, I'll reiterate, we have returned to the city before, we sold out our return game, then attendances declined to the extent that only 1 stand was open, and even that was rarely full.

We have to accept that we have a hard core fan base of around10-12k that's it, and we have a stadium that holds 30k+
Coventry is a big city, but honestly, how many of the locals actually follow the club.
I'm sure we will do well in a cup final or play off game, because that represents a big day out, but Preston at home on a cold wet night wont attract more than 12k max.
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I’d say it’s more 7-8k some games in League 1 and 2 there was only that many.
 

COV

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  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #233
fatso said:
But, I'll reiterate, we have returned to the city before, we sold out our return game, then attendances declined to the extent that only 1 stand was open, and even that was rarely full.

We have to accept that we have a hard core fan base of around10-12k that's it, and we have a stadium that holds 30k+
Coventry is a big city, but honestly, how many of the locals actually follow the club.
I'm sure we will do well in a cup final or play off game, because that represents a big day out, but Preston at home on a cold wet night wont attract more than 12k max.
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With vision like that we really are screwed
 

pusbccfc

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  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #234
COV said:
Catchment area is completely irrelevant unless you give them a reason to be interested and come along to games
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People have moaned about a lack of excitement yet in the past 5 years we've won at Wembley twice. Been promoted twice. We now play in the Championship full of decent sized teams.

Pandemic aside, following Coventry in recent times has been far more exciting than the whole period we had in the Championship before.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #235
COV said:
With vision like that we really are screwed
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It’s a fair assessment imo
 

COV

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  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #236
pusbccfc said:
People have moaned about a lack of excitement yet in the past 5 years we've won at Wembley twice. Been promoted twice. We now play in the Championship full of decent sized teams.

Pandemic aside, following Coventry in recent times has been far more exciting than the whole period we had in the Championship before.
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And where were we playing? Did we have stability? You’re not comparing apples with apples

This club hasn’t had a period of time without a major crisis in well over a decade, we’re still in the crisis now but the team is masking it.
 

COV

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  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #237
SlowerThanPlatt said:
It’s a fair assessment imo
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Not really.

Would you say Stoke City are historically a much bigger club than us?
 

pusbccfc

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  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #238
COV said:
And where were we playing? Did we have stability? You’re not comparing apples with apples

This club hasn’t had a period of time without a major crisis in well over a decade, we’re still in the crisis now but the team is masking it.
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Fair point but people are looking for excuses always. Fair enough if you didn't go because we played elsewhere but we're back now and on the back of success.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #239
COV said:
Not really.

Would you say Stoke City are historically a much bigger club than us?
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I’d say we’re similar
 

COV

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  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #240
pusbccfc said:
Fair point but people are looking for excuses always. Fair enough if you didn't go because we played elsewhere but we're back now and on the back of success.
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Oh yeah, I agree that there are excuses. People have been let down too many times and the one period of time where we get on a roll we end up playing somewhere else.
 

Frostie

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  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #241
fatso said:
But, I'll reiterate, we have returned to the city before, we sold out our return game, then attendances declined to the extent that only 1 stand was open, and even that was rarely full.

We have to accept that we have a hard core fan base of around10-12k that's it, and we have a stadium that holds 30k+
Coventry is a big city, but honestly, how many of the locals actually follow the club.
I'm sure we will do well in a cup final or play off game, because that represents a big day out, but Preston at home on a cold wet night wont attract more than 12k max.
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Depressing as it is, it's hard to argue with that.
 

fatso

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  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #242
COV said:
Rubbish, we closed the stands as we were shite week in and week out and sunk to the lowest point in our entire history- nobody wanted to watch the endless garbage

I know nobody will change your mind as you’re one of the “those were the days” brigade, but give it a run at promotion and you’ll find any worries about the “matchday experience” would mysteriously disappear and people would be falling over themselves to get tickets
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Total complete and utter bollocks, we have just achieved 2 promotions in 3 years, followed by a successful fight to survive our first year back in the Championshiop! We have one of the best young managers in the game, the club are on the rise, we are returning to our rightful home after a 2 season absence, we have season tickets at massively reduced cost offering fantastic value, and yet STILL, STILL we cant sell 10k season tickets!!!

People in Cov just arnt interested in football to bother going consistently.
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #243
COV said:
It is irrelevant if you do not have a product that anyone wants (hate to use the corporate lingo).

Get yourself a product, ie a team that people want to watch, that’s when your catchment area becomes relevant as you see what you could aim at and budget for.
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Of course it’s not the bigger the catchment the greater the opportunity - if you are in the shetlands you could win the champions league and you’d get no fans
 

COV

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  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #244
Grendel said:
Of course it’s not the bigger the catchment the greater the opportunity - if you are in the shetlands you could win the champions league and you’d get no fans
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Like I said, catchment area is relevant if you have a decent team. If you don’t then you can have a million in your area but you’ll still get pitiful crowds.
 

COV

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  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #245
fatso said:
Total complete and utter bollocks, we have just achieved 2 promotions in 3 years, followed by a successful fight to survive our first year back in the Championshiop! We have one of the best young managers in the game, the club are on the rise, we are returning to our rightful home after a 2 season absence, we have season tickets at massively reduced cost offering fantastic value, and yet STILL, STILL we cant sell 10k season tickets!!!

People in Cov just arnt interested in football to bother going consistently.
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But we’ve never had huge season ticket sales, you think we could change decades of behaviour in a few months?

Give it some success next season and watch the bandwagon grow.
 
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