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Orca

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  • Aug 9, 2019
  • #561
Grendel said:
It seems no one does how very strange - s council employee who when you google him has some Phoenix group shit on there, was running the Cov Utd ladies team i believe and is Lies Reid, Fishbaiter, Antibody etc
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So you have conclusive evidence he's behind these accounts I presume? What does he do at the Council that has a bearing on CCFC? A Google of "tim kalns sky blues trust resignation" doesn't really throw up much.

What other people do on twitter is up to them. My interaction with anyone on twitter doesn't apply an endorsement.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 9, 2019
  • #562
Orca said:
So you have conclusive evidence he's behind these accounts I presume? What does he do at the Council that has a bearing on CCFC? A Google of "tim kalns sky blues trust resignation" doesn't really throw up much
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Oh dear.

It must be wrong then if Google doesn't say, if the JR doesn't say it then it must be completely fabricated too.
 

Orca

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  • Aug 9, 2019
  • #563
Nick said:
Oh dear.
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Nick, sorry to disappoint you, but I will repeat again, I genuinely have no knowledge of Tim Kalns or what he's supposed to have done. I don't spend every waking hour on this forum, so if it's been discussed on here before, I've not seen it. Happy to learn, genuinely, but being cryptic about it isn't helping.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 9, 2019
  • #564
Quick search on line shows he was or is local government
Was co opened on to the trust for a year in October 18
Was involved in Coventry United
 

Orca

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2019
  • #565
Sky Blue Pete said:
Quick search on line shows he was or is local government
Was co opened on to the trust for a year in October 18
Was involved in Coventry United
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Yes, I found all of that too. But he's not at the trust any more and apparently I'm supposed to know why!
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 9, 2019
  • #566
Orca said:
So you have conclusive evidence he's behind these accounts I presume? What does he do at the Council that has a bearing on CCFC? A Google of "tim kalns sky blues trust resignation" doesn't really throw up much.

What other people do on twitter is up to them. My interaction with anyone on twitter doesn't apply an endorsement.
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He didn’t resign he was refused on the board due to his multiple accounts

You are looking beyond ridiculous now
 

Orca

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  • Aug 9, 2019
  • #567
Grendel said:
He didn’t resign he was refused on the board due to his multiple accounts

You are looking beyond ridiculous now
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I've heard this from you, but there's no information of it online I can find, unless you'd care to point me at it.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 9, 2019
  • #568
Orca said:
Nick, sorry to disappoint you, but I will repeat again, I genuinely have no knowledge of Tim Kalns or what he's supposed to have done. I don't spend every waking hour on this forum, so if it's been discussed on here before, I've not seen it. Happy to learn, genuinely, but being cryptic about it isn't helping.
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Maybe you can ask him in between hanging off every word they say?
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 9, 2019
  • #569
Orca said:
I've heard this from you, but there's no information of it online I can find, unless you'd care to point me at it.
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It’s not online it was at the trust meeting - if you are denying Kalns is the parody account you really are a flat earth member
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 9, 2019
  • #570
Grendel said:
It’s not online it was at the trust meeting - if you are denying Kalns is the parody account you really are a flat earth member
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CJ did confirm it
 

Orca

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  • Aug 9, 2019
  • #571
Nick said:
CJ did confirm it
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Thanks for the clarity. As I said, I don't go to the meetings, so I wasn't aware. I am now.

Grendel said:
It’s not online it was at the trust meeting - if you are denying Kalns is the parody account you really are a flat earth member
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Well the evidence does suggest that he is, now you've told me exactly how you came to this conclusion and that it was discussed at a meeting I didn't attend. Prior to these last few updates from you both, I genuinely didn't know.

Thanks.
 

olderskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2019
  • #572
Orca said:
Thanks for the clarity. As I said, I don't go to the meetings, so I wasn't aware. I am now.


Well the evidence does suggest that he is, now you've told me exactly how you came to this conclusion and that it was discussed at a meeting I didn't attend. Prior to these last few updates from you both, I genuinely didn't know.

Thanks.
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It's been known about on here for some time orca, and apparently, the multiple accounts are used to paint a very council oriented story with no blame assigned to any other parties other than SISU. The accounts seem to be used to browbeat any alternative views, pouring scorn on anyone that disagrees with Tim's message, making it look like others agree with him.

It really is childish behaviour, and rightly gets called out on by grendel and others. Maybe you can see why now?

And for clarification, no one "supports" SISU just because they point these childish accounts out. We all know they have been terrible owners, but others are also culpable in the mess we find ourselves in.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 9, 2019
  • #573
olderskyblue said:
It's been known about on here for some time orca, and apparently, the multiple accounts are used to paint a very council oriented story with no blame assigned to any other parties other than SISU. The accounts seem to be used to browbeat any alternative views, pouring scorn on anyone that disagrees with Tim's message, making it look like others agree with him.

It really is childish behaviour, and rightly gets called out on by grendel and others. Maybe you can see why now?

And for clarification, no one "supports" SISU just because they point these childish accounts out. We all know they have been terrible owners, but others are also culpable in the mess we find ourselves in.
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Orca

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2019
  • #574
olderskyblue said:
It's been known about on here for some time orca, and apparently, the multiple accounts are used to paint a very council oriented story with no blame assigned to any other parties other than SISU. The accounts seem to be used to browbeat any alternative views, pouring scorn on anyone that disagrees with Tim's message, making it look like others agree with him.

It really is childish behaviour, and rightly gets called out on by grendel and others. Maybe you can see why now?

And for clarification, no one "supports" SISU just because they point these childish accounts out. We all know they have been terrible owners, but others are also culpable in the mess we find ourselves in.
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I appreciate that, thank you. As I've said before, I'm a very infrequent visitor here.

I appreciate that there are multiple parties involved and there are plenty of decisions taken by the Council I wish hadn't happened. I still stand by my view that the catalyst and instigator for all of our ills is SISU. In the same way that being anti one thing doesn't make you pro another, my strong anti-SISU stance doesn't make me pro-Council and certainly doesn't make me pro-Wasps.

I'm sure there will be comeback here from Grendel where he'll turn up some tweet or post I've made that he'll spin to make me pro-Council or pro-Wasps. Fair game I suppose - he did ask me to find something where he'd said something positive about SISU.
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 9, 2019
  • #575
Orca said:
I appreciate that, thank you. As I've said before, I'm a very infrequent visitor here.

I appreciate that there are multiple parties involved and there are plenty of decisions taken by the Council I wish hadn't happened. I still stand by my view that the catalyst and instigator for all of our ills is SISU. In the same way that being anti one thing doesn't make you pro another, my strong anti-SISU stance doesn't make me pro-Council and certainly doesn't make me pro-Wasps.

I'm sure there will be comeback here from Grendel where he'll turn up some tweet or post I've made that he'll spin to make me pro-Council or pro-Wasps. Fair game I suppose - he did ask me to find something where he'd said something positive about SISU.
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Which you failed to do. The catalyst for all our ills is the very hedge fund the council demanded own the club

Oh dear
 

usskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2019
  • #576
On the footballing side of things, I think ownership has done well recently...

 
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Orca

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2019
  • #577
Grendel said:
Which you failed to do. The catalyst for all our ills is the very hedge fund the council demanded own the club

Oh dear
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Yeah, you've mentioned this before. I've read some detail around this, but I'm interested to learn about how something was 'demanded'. Is it correct that all the other buyers wanted the stadium included as part of the deal and SISU were the only ones who were prepared to take on the club with them as tenants of ACL?
 

itsabuzzard

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2019
  • #578
usskyblue said:
On the footballing side of things, I think ownership has done well recently...

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You're going to have to try a bit harder to derail this one...

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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2019
  • #579
Anyway Neil is back on form - the polls I’ve done are irrelevant, the facts are 50% of fans are refusing to go, sisu are refusing to do a deal with wasps blah blah blah
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2019
  • #580
Orca said:
Is it correct that all the other buyers wanted the stadium included as part of the deal and SISU were the only ones who were prepared to take on the club with them as tenants of ACL?
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Hobo

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2019
  • #581
Grendel said:
Anyway Neil is back on form - the polls I’ve done are irrelevant, the facts are 50% of fans are refusing to go, sisu are refusing to do a deal with wasps blah blah blah
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Ok Neil, if 50 per cent are refusing to go and SISU wont deal with Wasps; what are the trust planning to do? As I hate SISU?

But also what are the Trust going to do about Wasps? Because as a fan who refused to go to Northampton because it was wrong to move Coventry City out of Coventry. How can those like fans not be opposed to Wasps moving to Coventry?
 
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mark82

Super Moderator
  • Aug 9, 2019
  • #582
Orca said:
Is that really the job of a moderator? I've never made any such argument you're all the same person, I just found it strange that a moderator found it necessary to edit someone's content. Where would the editing stop?
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It wasn't me so I can't really answer that, and it's the first time I've seen it happen other than to remove something that was out of line, just saying it wasn't really changed.

There's very little moderation on here, we let people speak their mind as long as it's not offensive or abusive. We don't really need any further advice on what to do though, thanks for the offer.
 

Orca

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2019
  • #583
mark82 said:
It wasn't me so I can't really answer that, and it's the first time I've seen it happen other than to remove something that was out of line, just saying it wasn't really changed.

There's very little moderation on here, we let people speak their mind as long as it's not offensive or abusive. We don't really need any further advice on what to do though, thanks for the offer.
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I didn't offer a thing. As for moderating things that are offensive of abusive, I'd say you're falling well below a particularly low bar there.
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Aug 9, 2019
  • #584
Orca said:
I appreciate that, thank you. As I've said before, I'm a very infrequent visitor here.

I appreciate that there are multiple parties involved and there are plenty of decisions taken by the Council I wish hadn't happened. I still stand by my view that the catalyst and instigator for all of our ills is SISU. In the same way that being anti one thing doesn't make you pro another, my strong anti-SISU stance doesn't make me pro-Council and certainly doesn't make me pro-Wasps.

I'm sure there will be comeback here from Grendel where he'll turn up some tweet or post I've made that he'll spin to make me pro-Council or pro-Wasps. Fair game I suppose - he did ask me to find something where he'd said something positive about SISU.
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It's generally the same people that try to say this place is full of Sisu lovers and nothing else. In reality, this site has a full spectrum of views and all are tolerated. There are disagreements, of course, and there are certainly strong characters but this place is generally quite representative of all views. People like Tim Kalns don't like that as it's not just an echo chamber of their own view, people will challenge it. If all you want is your own view repeated back to you, this is not the place.

If, however, you want genuine discussion and don't get upset at someone not parroting your own view, you'll find this place welcoming. People can disagree vehemently on one thread but still discuss a different topic in a civil manner in another thread. The great thing about life is we don't all agree on everything, it'd be very boring if we did. Feel free to hang around - you'll be more than welcome.
 
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mark82

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  • Aug 9, 2019
  • #585
Orca said:
I didn't offer a thing. As for moderating things that are offensive of abusive, I'd say you're falling well below a particularly low bar there.
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I've not seen anything reported. I don't have time to check every post. What have you seen? (Genuine question)
 

Orca

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2019
  • #586
mark82 said:
I've not seen anything reported. I don't have time to check every post. What have you seen? (Genuine question)
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Well Grendel calling me a C**t for starters. Not even thought to report it as I'd assumed whatever he does is generally tolerated anyway.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 10, 2019
  • #587
mark82 said:
If, however, you want genuine discussion and don't get upset at someone not parroting your own view, you'll find this place welcoming. People can disagree vehemently on one thread but still discuss a different topic in a civil manner in another thread.
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Its also a great place to learn all about the EU.
 
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Orca

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  • Aug 10, 2019
  • #588
mark82 said:
It's generally the same people that try to say this place is full of Sisu lovers and nothing else. In reality, this site has a full spectrum of views and all are tolerated. There are disagreements, of course, and there are certainly strong characters but this place is generally quite representative of all views. People like Tim Kalns don't like that as it's not just an echo chamber of their own view, people will challenge it. If all you want is your own view repeated back to you, this is not the place.

If, however, you want genuine discussion and don't get upset at someone not parroting your own view, you'll find this place welcoming. People can disagree vehemently on one thread but still discuss a different topic in a civil manner in another thread. The great thing about life is we don't all agree on everything, it'd be very boring if we did. Feel free to hang around - you'll be more than welcome.
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To be fair, I've found this place less than civil since I first came on. Grendel told me to fuck off on my second or third ever post. It didn't improve.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 10, 2019
  • #589
Just been catching up on Neil's posts from today. Starting to wonder if there's more to it, we seem to have moved well past the realm of someone who is just misinformed or has a different opinion.

Today he's insisting every single person who didn't attend St Andrews last week did it as a protest, that Wasps broke off talks with the club when they found out about the EC complaint - despite their being a press release from Wasps on their website categorically saying that wasn't the case; that if Wasps allowed the club back the club would refuse to return and that the council offered their shares in ACL to SISU - something I don't think even the most pro-council supporters has ever claimed before.

Theres several people trying to engage with him, not the 'usual suspects' I would add, and he point blank refuses to acknowledge any viewpoint other than his own. It's truly bizarre. I thought some people on here were stubborn but they've got nothing on him.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Aug 10, 2019
  • #590
Orca said:
To be fair, I've found this place less than civil since I first came on. Grendel told me to fuck off on my second or third ever post. It didn't improve.
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Hahaha classic.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 10, 2019
  • #591
Sick Boy said:
Hahaha classic.
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That is Grendel though. I’ve never thought it as offensive though. Funny yep
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 10, 2019
  • #592
Orca said:
To be fair, I've found this place less than civil since I first came on. Grendel told me to fuck off on my second or third ever post. It didn't improve.
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Think of him as the site's Father Jack
 
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mark82

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  • Aug 10, 2019
  • #593
Orca said:
To be fair, I've found this place less than civil since I first came on. Grendel told me to fuck off on my second or third ever post. It didn't improve.
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Well, when you only come on here for conflict with an individual that will be your experience. You have the same disagreement on twitter with the same 2 or 3 people. It's not like you're trying to get involved in other discussion.

By the way, we're not forcing you to be here. You are here by your own free will, you're either enjoying whatever this is you have got going with Grendel or you have some sort of sadistic need to get into utterly pointless disagreements that go round and round the same points over and over again.
 

mark82

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  • Aug 10, 2019
  • #594
chiefdave said:
Its also a great place to learn all about the EU.
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There's a reason I stay away from that stuff.
 
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mark82

Super Moderator
  • Aug 10, 2019
  • #595
chiefdave said:
Just been catching up on Neil's posts from today. Starting to wonder if there's more to it, we seem to have moved well past the realm of someone who is just misinformed or has a different opinion.

Today he's insisting every single person who didn't attend St Andrews last week did it as a protest, that Wasps broke off talks with the club when they found out about the EC complaint - despite their being a press release from Wasps on their website categorically saying that wasn't the case; that if Wasps allowed the club back the club would refuse to return and that the council offered their shares in ACL to SISU - something I don't think even the most pro-council supporters has ever claimed before.

Theres several people trying to engage with him, not the 'usual suspects' I would add, and he point blank refuses to acknowledge any viewpoint other than his own. It's truly bizarre. I thought some people on here were stubborn but they've got nothing on him.
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It's at the point where, like certain people on here, he's best ignored for the sake of your own sanity. May as well have an argument with a brick wall.
 
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