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  • Start date Jul 21, 2019
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djr8369

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 2, 2019
  • #316
Grendel said:
Neil White from the Trust has agreed to meet with me at SA at the first game

I have to say he doesn’t seem to like me and has low expectations. Neil thinks only 6 or 10 people seem to oppose the trust stance

I would like a collation of views and proposed actions from fans here so I can present these to Neil

I am especially interested in people’s view to protests at wasps matches statements against wasps etc but I will have balance the opinions.

Neil is very interested in number of responses so the more the merrier
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For me the key points are that they aren’t representing the views of all fans. They might feel they are based on Facebook but this site and twitter seem to have a different take. They must also understand that their stance influences the opinion of a lot of fans so they could be creating a positive feedback loop.

Secondly, as others have said it needs to be pressed that they can’t wait to moan about SISU but never say anything against the council or CET. While we can be frustrated about wasps they’re looking after themselves (putting the moral arguments aside) and it’s the council who have really let us down. With everything that has come out they should be pushing the council and CET hard.


Also, despite our political differences I’d like to thank you Grendel for taking responsible action on this.


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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 2, 2019
  • #317
The notes are re-attached which show the summary feedback and I have put the Polls in a summary with supporting comments
 

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Badger

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 2, 2019
  • #318
Thank you for taking the time for this Grendel, I really hope that the message sinks in.

I will be giving it a month or so and if there is no change in attitude I will be requesting my removal as a member ( if indeed I was every registered when I joined)
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 3, 2019
  • #319
Disappoint lack of coverage of the big half time meeting on CWR.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 3, 2019
  • #320
chiefdave said:
Disappoint lack of coverage of the big half time meeting on CWR.
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Oddly it was abandoned too busy to get down to meet apparently
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 3, 2019
  • #321
Poor from neil
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 3, 2019
  • #322
I’m shocked. Properly. The trust not communicating with fans. Well I never. First time for everything I suppose. Give them the benefit of the doubt this time though. Must be a one off.
 
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duffer

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 3, 2019
  • #323
Grendel said:
Oddly it was abandoned too busy to get down to meet apparently
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That's pretty poor, especially after insisting on you jumping through a number of hoops. The people running the trust just don't seem to get it, do they.

I can't see the trust achieving anything positive now - they're never going to be seen as honest arbiters by the owners, and even worse there's no real faith in them from a large proportion of the original membership. There also doesn't seem to be any genuine interest in changing, judging by this kind of behaviour.

Personally speaking, I'm done with them; any time they claim to be speaking on behalf of CCFC supporters they should be robustly challenged - it's simply not true.
 
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usskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 3, 2019
  • #324
No surprises here. They don’t want parapet dodgers.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 3, 2019
  • #325
If I’m being charitable the logistics were more difficult - it’s much more packed than the Ricoh and the blocks separated

I couldn’t get a PM through - twitter didn’t allow it so I assume there is a feature that blocks non following?

I said I’d go down the bar area and asked him on twitter to DM me. He didn’t and said the area was too crowded to get to - the bar itself was but the entrance in actually was ok

He was tweeting saying it was the worst match experience that he’d ever had. I did say the atmosphere I thought was probably for that opposition better than the Ricoh as we were packed in - he said it was in the end a good atmosphere but his mum and dad will it be able to go

Now I have sympathy with this. I think the older generation will miss out and they will not be interested in politics but just the day out. A guy sat next me me last season who was a big guy but in his 80’s and he said if we moved he could not go

The issue I have with Neil and co is he bleats but still will toady up to wasps and do nothing to upset their apple cart
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 3, 2019
  • #326
Grendel said:
I couldn’t get a PM through - twitter didn’t allow it so I assume there is a feature that blocks non following?
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You have to both follow each other to PM.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 3, 2019
  • #327
Deleted member 5849 said:
You have to both follow each other to PM.
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Didn’t realise that - he did say though that he wasn’t able to meet as it was all - well too much trouble
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 3, 2019
  • #328
Grendel said:
Didn’t realise that - he did say though that he wasn’t able to meet as it was all - well too much trouble
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Charitabl;y, perhaps he'd like to arrange another, more practical time. Half time at a football match was hardly going to be anything more than a hi, and your actual name (or Boutros Boutros Ghali if you preferred!) anyway!
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 3, 2019
  • #329
btw, making 1,551 tweets in two and a half months is good going. I've done less than half that from my personal account in eight years!
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 3, 2019
  • #330
Deleted member 5849 said:
Charitabl;y, perhaps he'd like to arrange another, more practical time. Half time at a football match was hardly going to be anything more than a hi, and your actual name (or Boutros Boutros Ghali if you preferred!) anyway!
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I think he will be pretty dumbfounded there was such a good following to the game.

He kept saying the attendance poll was nonsense but actually the attendance for that game against the Ricoh fixture shows it’s not that far away

He and his buddies are a waste of space. They will do nothing to go against wasps - nothing

The funny comment on twitter when I said to him meet me in the bar area was from someone who said please cheer him up. He was bitching and moaning and I know he will be upset at how well logistically it actually went
 

ccfctommy

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  • Aug 3, 2019
  • #331
The bar area is a hard place to meet especially at half time. It's tiny.
 

bawtryneal

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  • Aug 3, 2019
  • #332
Grendel said:
Oddly it was abandoned too busy to get down to meet apparently
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Classic.
What a tosser ( and I don't mean you Grendel )
 

ccfctommy

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 3, 2019
  • #333
bawtryneal said:
Classic.
What a tosser ( and I don't mean you Grendel )
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Did you go today? There were loads of people in the bar area, which was tiny by the way. HT lasts 15 minutes. Should have done it properly. In a pub beforehand. Could have had a proper chat.
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 3, 2019
  • #334
ccfctommy said:
Did you go today? There were loads of people in the bar area, which was tiny by the way. HT lasts 15 minutes. Should have done it properly. In a pub beforehand. Could have had a proper chat.
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The half time idea was his not mine to be fair. I’m now trying the pub idea for the next game
 
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bawtryneal

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 4, 2019
  • #335
ccfctommy said:
Did you go today? There were loads of people in the bar area, which was tiny by the way. HT lasts 15 minutes. Should have done it properly. In a pub beforehand. Could have had a proper chat.
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Yes I did go today. ( er, yesterday)
 
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Hobo

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 4, 2019
  • #336
In fairness a bar meet at half time yesterday would have been difficult. You cannot blame either party for that.

Hopefully you will have more success in future Grendel and thankyou for taking this on.

I though the atmosphere was better than the Ricoh, more like a large following away. A few poor performances could ruin that.

Any game out of Coventry will mean some of our regular fans cant attend which is a great shame. Any party involved in these circumstances should be petitioned and or protested against by the trust.

The Trust should represent the views and needs of all fans on all spectator issues, not just the preference of a few.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 5, 2019
  • #337
Doing his best to put people off the trust again
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 5, 2019
  • #338
Nick said:
Doing his best to put people off the trust again
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Really lost the plot now!
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 5, 2019
  • #339
Nick said:
Doing his best to put people off the trust again
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What's he said now?
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 5, 2019
  • #340
clint van damme said:
What's he said now?
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Just seen it.
I would love to know day at be thought the role entailed when he put himself forward?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 5, 2019
  • #341
clint van damme said:
Just seen it.
I would love to know day at be thought the role entailed when he put himself forward?
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Just generally being a bit random to people then acting a victim.

A guy was saying how he could get his parents to games and he's giving him sarcy comments.

I don't think there's any intention to engage with fans and communicate
 

shepardo01

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 5, 2019
  • #342
Grendel said:
Really lost the plot now!
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See UK orca has called you a bully Grendel.... hilarious!...
Haven't got the time to go back and forth with him, but that is so hypocritical of somebody who teams up with CW, Lies, James Alexander to hammer, from all angles, anybody who questions certain anti wasps/council aspects of anything.
Looking at it, he also seems to delight in getting people banned, then shows off to the above... (might be wrong though... might be my grasp of twitter!) His mate on there, Lies Reid has blocked me, and hides behind this to insult me!! (Can see this from another account!).. this is his circle of online pals, of which I believe are/have been involved in a combination of the trust, ACL, and the council!!... what do you think of that Neil!??
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 5, 2019
  • #343
shepardo01 said:
See UK orca has called you a bully Grendel.... hilarious!...
Haven't got the time to go back and forth with him, but that is so hypocritical of somebody who teams up with CW, Lies, James Alexander to hammer, from all angles, anybody who questions certain anti wasps/council aspects of anything.
Looking at it, he also seems to delight in getting people banned, then shows off to the above... (might be wrong though... might be my grasp of twitter!) His mate on there, Lies Reid has blocked me, and hides behind this to insult me!! (Can see this from another account!).. this is his circle of online pals, of which I believe are/have been involved in a combination of the trust, ACL, and the council!!... what do you think of that Neil!??
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Orca is a c**t
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 5, 2019
  • #344
What’s happened?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 5, 2019
  • #345
Just saw, the guys a disgrace.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 5, 2019
  • #346
Fuck knows what he's trying to do, it's as if he's a sisu mole trying to do a job inside the trust.
 

Adge

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 6, 2019
  • #347
Just don’t bother engaging-it’s a waste of time.
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 6, 2019
  • #348
How did this go then? Not read the thread for a while.

Also, I'm happy to put my full actual real name to my quote on that pdf if that helps at all. Probably won't.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 6, 2019
  • #349
hill83 said:
How did this go then? Not read the thread for a while.

Also, I'm happy to put my full actual real name to my quote on that pdf if that helps at all. Probably won't.
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Hill Eighty Three ?
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 6, 2019
  • #350
hill83 said:
How did this go then? Not read the thread for a while.

Also, I'm happy to put my full actual real name to my quote on that pdf if that helps at all. Probably won't.
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Neil has become Sky Blue Kid of the twitter world
 
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