The judges at the JR and Higgs case said that the council have done nothing wrong ( in respect of those cases ). Does that make them members of the "anti SISU Brigade"?
The judges at the JR and Higgs case said that the council have done nothing wrong ( in respect of those cases ). Does that make them members of the "anti SISU Brigade"?
No. But if you mention them in a better light than SISU you are defending CCC or are a CCC lover and are against CCFC in some peoples eyes. But it counts differently if the same is done with SISU. Complete double standards in my eyes. It gets me going on some stupid debates on here sometimes.
Well no, it means they were only looking at 2 individual cases and were talking about legally rather than morally weren't they? Does that mean SISU did nothing wrong when moving us to Northampton as it wasn't breaking the law?
As I said, defending them is quite simple isn't it? It is saying they have done nothing wrong, being proud of them isn't it?
Saying person x is a dickhead, doesn't mean you love person Y.
So why is it different rules for someone doing the same with CCC?
Somebody attacking SISU isn't defending CCC. Somebody saying "Tim Fisher is a wanker" isn't defending CCC.
Somebody defending CCC is saying how proud they are of them, how they have done nothing wrong etc etc.
Imo the move was wrong because the tactic was doomed to failure and didn't take into Account the damage to the "Goodwill" of the business and the working relationship with ACL / CCC. If it was a sensible move we would have accepted it. Nothing to do with morals - just plain stupid.
I have been called a CCC lover or told that I prefer CCC to CCFC countless times. I have never said I am proud of them or that they have done nothing wrong. Where were you to defend me on any time this happened?
Somebody attacking SISU isn't defending CCC. Somebody saying "Tim Fisher is a wanker" isn't defending CCC.
Somebody defending CCC is saying how proud they are of them, how they have done nothing wrong etc etc.
So the judge got it wrong then? People of Coventry shouldn't be proud of their local authority for defending themselves against a court case that got laughed out of court and refused the right of appeal and subsequently lost the first round of the right to have a right to appeal which is now being appealed? That's not defending them. That's pointing out that they've done exactly what they should have done and what should be expected of them.
Perhaps you think that the council should have rolled over at the sight of the first solicitors letter and come to an out of courts settlement on a case that they were clearly not going to lose but I would say that would be something not to be proud of.
Probably the same place you were to defend me when people come out with shit about me working for SISU or being paid off.
I do also remember saying fair play about the time you drove miles in Italy to watch us pre season which sort of says to me you aren't on here as a "plant" or something.
Where did I say the judge got it wrong? Can you point it out?
Can you link me to the judge's comments on everything throughout the whole saga with CCFC including the original move, wasps etc rather than just individual situations?
I have defended you in the past when that sort of BS was said Nick. But not when it was said in jest though as it was sometimes. I defend anyone......even SISU.....when someone comes out with BS. But the same people I have defended in the past call me a CCC lover. Not double standards is it?
Where did I say the judge got it wrong? Can you point it out?
Can you link me to the judge's comments on everything throughout the whole saga with CCFC including the original move, wasps etc rather than just individual situations?
That is like taking a Les Reid statement and taking one or two lines from it saying it could be true when we know most of it is BS for sure.
But you think that people shouldn't be proud of CCC for taking on SISU in the court's and winning instead of rolling over and having their tummy tickled by SISU. That's the only scenario I can remember when people have said on here that they are proud of CCC unless you can link me to where someone has said something different?
But it was legal wasn't it? It didn't break the rules did it and it was allowed?
and am fully aware of how councils work ( have had my own problems with councils - even CCC ).
Total confrontation was not the best way to get what you want from CCC.
Ah, now there are umpteen threads one could run on that...
And yes, agreed. it then becomes political, it then becomes a challenge. You then risk being subject to the media assault.
However... I still find it astonishing that no coherent call for a proper mediation process was ever made. If two parties stop talking, it's impossible to say it's always one person's fault. If someone feels they have to confront, there must be a reason too. (awaits binary oppositions to kick in in response to this)
And just a bit of talking, in a structured setting, could have been so much more productive.
Ah, now there are umpteen threads one could run on that...
And yes, agreed. it then becomes political, it then becomes a challenge. You then risk being subject to the media assault.
However... I still find it astonishing that no coherent call for a proper mediation process was ever made. If two parties stop talking, it's impossible to say it's always one person's fault. If someone feels they have to confront, there must be a reason too. (awaits binary oppositions to kick in in response to this)
And just a bit of talking, in a structured setting, could have been so much more productive.
There were, but not from either party until It was too late IIRC
Independent parties were suggesting It while It wad about the rent, but was It ever really about the rent?
As well as people saying that CCC are not to blame for anything that has ever happened and that it is ALL CCFC / SISU?
It also shows something when we win 2 games and nobody gives a shit, yet there is a council / SISU / stadium thread and people are over it like a tramp on chips.
Why can people not be proud of any of the fuckers and think they are all as bad as each other (used as phrase before people get into percentages) and quite clearly think they are all in it for themselves and what they can milk out of the club?
There are a few people i currently hate for the demise of ccfc , and it stems way further back than 2007.
For me it all started going downhill when we got rid of Sillett and in came Butcher, followed by Gould. And of course the boardroom coup that led to Richardson ousting Poynton.
There were, but not from either party until It was too late IIRC
Independent parties were suggesting It while It wad about the rent, but was It ever really about the rent?
It also shows something when we win 2 games and nobody gives a shit, yet there is a council / SISU / stadium thread and people are over it like a tramp on chips.
Whose ever said that CCC are blameless? Do you have a link?
So are you questioning why people are commenting on this thread whilst making more posts on it than anyone else? :thinking about:
Some of us take boycotting seriously.
I was also posting when we won, when we lost, when we had a stadium, when we didn't. I am sad like that!
I have never said CCC were innocent of all charges. I post in here when we win, lose or draw. I posted in here when we had a stadium. Can you find another stick to beat me with please?
I also don't question you in any way on threads you join in on. Well that was until now when you brought the subject up.
I have never said CCC were innocent of all charges. I post in here when we win, lose or draw. I posted in here when we had a stadium. Can you find another stick to beat me with please?
I also don't question you in any way on threads you join in on. Well that was until now when you brought the subject up.
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