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Amadou Bakayoko - Confirmed 2 Year Deal (2 Viewers)

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  • Start date Aug 6, 2018
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Otis

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  • Aug 27, 2018
  • #806
Westendlad said:
Chill out..........No player should be judged so early in the season.
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Exactly. Surely common sense dictates that doesn't it?
 
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Londonccfcfan

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 27, 2018
  • #807
Westendlad said:
Chill out..........No player should be judged so early in the season.
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Now he's gone from 1st to soon to be 5th choice. Very chilled.
 

Londonccfcfan

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 27, 2018
  • #808
Otis said:
True. The whole team were crap apparently, so why simply focus on Bakayoko?
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Erm MR singled him out.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 27, 2018
  • #809
Londonccfcfan said:
Erm MR singled him out.
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MR paid 200k for him.

MR picked him before other players

MR put him on rather than Hiwula against Gillingham

It doesn't really mean that much
 

Londonccfcfan

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 27, 2018
  • #810
Erm this thread gives you a clue
 

AFCCOVENTRY

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 27, 2018
  • #811
Nick said:
MR paid 200k for him.

MR picked him before other players

MR put him on rather than Hiwula against Gillingham

It doesn't really mean that much
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Where's £200k come from?
 

Londonccfcfan

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 27, 2018
  • #812
Nick said:
MR paid 200k for him.

MR picked him before other players

MR put him on rather than Hiwula against Gillingham

It doesn't really mean that much
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That was rather baffling. Hiwula was very promising vs Blackpool.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 27, 2018
  • #813
AFCCOVENTRY said:
Where's £200k come from?
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Wasn't that the reported fee from all sources around the time? Might have been 150-200k.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 27, 2018
  • #814
Londonccfcfan said:
Erm MR singled him out.
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In ONE game. Fans have totally dismissed him as a player. Robins criticised him once on one occasion .
 

Londonccfcfan

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 27, 2018
  • #815
Signed the wrong Bakayoko

Chelsea transfer news: Tiemoue Bakayoko agent reveals the only way he will leave Chelsea this summer | Metro News
 

Westendlad

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 27, 2018
  • #816
Otis said:
True. The whole team were crap apparently, so why simply focus on Bakayoko?
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Shouldn't this be transferred to the 'fickle fans' thread now !!
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 27, 2018
  • #817
Otis said:
In ONE game. Fans have totally dismissed him as a player. Robins criticised him once on one occasion .
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He was dismissed before he even played.
 
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Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 27, 2018
  • #818
covcity4life said:
I could open up a can of worms to answer why certain players get more stick than others but then I will get told I'm playing a card and told to pack it in


So I won't...
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The joker?
 

Londonccfcfan

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 27, 2018
  • #819
Nick said:
He was dismissed before he even played.
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Not really we gave him the benefit of what little doubt he was crap.

All this bollocks he's not a target man.
 

capel & collindridge

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 27, 2018
  • #820
I think fans should cut him some slack if he hits the woodwork from outside the box or the GK produces a genuine worldie, but otherwise any player worthy of the shirt would never miss a single chance. I presume 'Come on the old five!' refers historically to just five or six chances in the game and all of them would always land in the back of the net (obviously apart from the ones that hit the woodwork or were foiled by worldies). And that is why the last time we got promoted from the fourth tier it took only 230 games to get another promotion.

So only another 226 games to go!
 

Westendlad

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  • Aug 27, 2018
  • #821
Astute said:
The joker?
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Was thinking something else than joker..
 

Greggs

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  • Aug 27, 2018
  • #822
Nick said:
He was dismissed before he even played.
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or 100+ games for walsall.......
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 27, 2018
  • #823
Londonccfcfan said:
Of course he will...just like the majority backed him and Biamou last him.

Those that could see talent. Back players to hilt.
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Biamou is shite - whatever happens Biamous professional career will be far shorter than bakayokos
 

Otis

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  • Aug 27, 2018
  • #824
Nick said:
He was dismissed before he even played.
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That is true. Comments like 'we don't want that sack of shit here'.
 

Otis

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  • Aug 27, 2018
  • #825
Greggs said:
or 100+ games for walsall.......
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0 games for Coventry.
 
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steve cooper

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 27, 2018
  • #826
I think that unfortunately for Bakayoko he apparently cost us about £200k, which is the sort of fee we would expect to pay for someone like, for instance, James Collins. Someone with a proven scoring record even in a lower league. So people are comparing his previous record against that and see it as unfavourable. If we had got him on a free it would have been totally different.
 

itsabuzzard

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 27, 2018
  • #827
Go on!
covcity4life said:
I could open up a can of worms to answer why certain players get more stick than others but then I will get told I'm playing a card and told to pack it in


So I won't...
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Sent from my LG-H850 using Tapatalk
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 27, 2018
  • #828
steve cooper said:
I think that unfortunately for Bakayoko he apparently cost us about £200k, which is the sort of fee we would expect to pay for someone like, for instance, James Collins. Someone with a proven scoring record even in a lower league. So people are comparing his previous record against that and see it as unfavourable. If we had got him on a free it would have been totally different.
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And as I have said many times, Steve, it is fine to be concerned. Just don't think it is right to totally dismiss him out of hand as a player based on only 5 games.
 
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lifeskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 27, 2018
  • #829
Otis said:
And as I have said many times, Steve, it is fine to be concerned. Just don't think it is right to totally dismiss him out of hand as a player based on only 5 games.
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After how many games does it become acceptable? 10? 20? Whole season?


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steve cooper

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 27, 2018
  • #830
Otis said:
And as I have said many times, Steve, it is fine to be concerned. Just don't think it is right to totally dismiss him out of hand as a player based on only 5 games.
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Yes, it's unfair on the lad and doesn't help the team either. We don't like undisclosed fees but I suppose this is a good example of where it would have been an advantage. I don't think a fee has ever been officially quoted for Bakayoko but it came from somewhere. Some of my recent posts have expressed concern but I would never write a player or the team off so early.
 

lifeskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 27, 2018
  • #831
We are a fickle bunch and have a go at O’Brien, burge, grimmer, sterling, JCH, biamou. And last season Haynes etc etc etc. Criticism and crucifixion of players who may not be good enough for the league we are in but who more often than not do their best.


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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 28, 2018
  • #832
lifeskyblue said:
After how many games does it become acceptable? 10? 20? Whole season?


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More than 5. The whole team has failed to gel at all well on the whole. Players are new and finding their feet. We keep changing the team.

10-12 games should give us a much better idea if players are going to be good enough. I still have faith in Sterling and the jury is still out on Bakayoko and Browne.
 
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skyblue025

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 28, 2018
  • #833
Rumour was 65k up front the rest in add ons
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 28, 2018
  • #834
Londonccfcfan said:
Not really we gave him the benefit of what little doubt he was crap.

All this bollocks he's not a target man.
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He clearly isn't. Pretty obvious
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 28, 2018
  • #835
Greggs said:
or 100+ games for walsall.......
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Oh yeah, forgot this was a Walsall forum
 
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 28, 2018
  • #836
Nick said:
He clearly isn't. Pretty obvious
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To us sensible fans anyway.
 

Ricketts

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 28, 2018
  • #837
I think we should judge a player after he has had a few games playing in his favoured position, being given the sort if service he likes.

Bakayoko is no Biamou. Long balls for him to head are a waste of time. From what I understand he likes balls to his feet, and he has pace.

He was better in his cameo 5 minutes on Saturday, wasnt even caught offside.
 
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mark82

Super Moderator
  • Aug 28, 2018
  • #838
skyblue025 said:
Rumour was 65k up front the rest in add ons
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Yep, similar to what I had seen. 200k is the end figure if targets, etc are met. I'd heard 75k, but in the same ballpark and more realistic.
 

Esoterica

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 28, 2018
  • #839
I've a feeling Robins likes a project striker every year. Biamou was never a target man at Sutton but we paid a small fee and Robins spent most of last season coaching it into him. Really think he's trying to do the same here too - paid a small fee for a young player with attributes he thinks he can work with and then enhance him as a player as the season progresses.
 

Johnnythespider

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 28, 2018
  • #840
capel & collindridge said:
I think fans should cut him some slack if he hits the woodwork from outside the box or the GK produces a genuine worldie, but otherwise any player worthy of the shirt would never miss a single chance. I presume 'Come on the old five!' refers historically to just five or six chances in the game and all of them would always land in the back of the net (obviously apart from the ones that hit the woodwork or were foiled by worldies). And that is why the last time we got promoted from the fourth tier it took only 230 games to get another promotion.

So only another 226 games to go!
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I agree a nice pair of slacks is just what he needs
 
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