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skyblueinBaku

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  • Apr 3, 2021
  • #106
mrtrench said:
They are super-chitted.

They'll be fine - just follow the instructions in the previous post.
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Are you sure about that, Mr Trench? These don't look like seed potatoes, just old spuds that haven't been stored properly. I would bin these and get proper seed potatoes. There is still time to get them chitted and planted. There is no telling whether or not they are diseased, and the sprouts will probably break off if an attempt is made to plant them.
 
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mrtrench

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  • Apr 3, 2021
  • #107
skyblueindorset said:
Are you sure about that, Mr Trench? These don't look like seed potatoes, just old spuds that haven't been stored properly. I would bin these and get proper seed potatoes. There is still time to get them chitted and planted. There is no telling whether or not they are diseased, and the sprouts will probably break off if an attempt is made to plant them.
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You probably know loads more than me, I'm just self-teaching and making it up as I go along. I agree they look like normal spuds but I always plant them out when they chit (albeit in a different bag in case of disease) and it's always worked out ok.
 

skyblueinBaku

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  • Apr 3, 2021
  • #108
mrtrench said:
You probably know loads more than me, I'm just self-teaching and making it up as I go along. I agree they look like normal spuds but I always plant them out when they chit (albeit in a different bag in case of disease) and it's always worked out ok.
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I'm self-taught, too! When we moved into this house over 20 years ago, I walked up the garden to the veg patch with a gardening book in hand and a lot of hope inside me.
 
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Marty

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  • Apr 3, 2021
  • #109
skyblueindorset said:
Are you sure about that, Mr Trench? These don't look like seed potatoes, just old spuds that haven't been stored properly. I would bin these and get proper seed potatoes. There is still time to get them chitted and planted. There is no telling whether or not they are diseased, and the sprouts will probably break off if an attempt is made to plant them.
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They were a few left overs from last year, I thought you could save any spuds and they'll grow again once planted. I stored them in cool, dark cupboard but obviously did something wrong.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Apr 3, 2021
  • #110
Marty said:
They were a few left overs from last year, I thought you could save any spuds and they'll grow again once planted. I stored them in cool, dark cupboard but obviously did something wrong.
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I think to keep the chits stubby they need a bit of light.
 

mrtrench

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  • Apr 4, 2021
  • #111
Marty said:
They were a few left overs from last year, I thought you could save any spuds and they'll grow again once planted. I stored them in cool, dark cupboard but obviously did something wrong.
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It's not ideal, Marty but I think it's as good a place to start as any. I started this way and still pop some in that have gone to chit from the bottom of the potato bag. The risk you have is disease, so keep them away from each other when you plant. If it works and you fancy doing more next year, think about buying some disease-free seed potatoes.

The important thing is to dig them into a trench as deep as you can and then gradually fill in the trench as they grow. The spuds grow on the green stalks you cover up later. I grow mine in bags or even old dustbins with holes through the bottom. Just because it's then very easy to dig them in deep and keep covering up during April/May/June. But as Dorset has already said - you must remember to keep watering them. Also would help if you can add organic matter.

On organic matter, you don't need to buy it. Here's some things you can do:

1. We have a polystyrene wormery which keeps stuff warm and doesn't release smells to attract rats. ALL waste food goes in there*. I put a seed tray beneath (one without holes) under the drip hole and every week you'll have a yucky brown liquid you can add to water to feed them. After a year you can dig in the finished worm matter from within. It goes dark brown.

2. Collect the green of nettles, or of you have it comfrey. Fill a bucket to the top and submerge it in water. After about 4 weeks it turns into a very smelly brown liquid. Dilute with water again for a great feed.

3. Compost garden waste in a heap. If you can, cut stalks etc. up small before adding. Grass cuttings are the easiest but you must add about 50% brown matter too (wood chippings; newspaper; torn card). It's composting when it gets hot (you can feel it and see steam rising). Turn it over to add more oxygen after 4-6 weeks. When it cools you have a great compost.

Good luck!


* EDIT: Just remembered, don't add citrus peel. Everything else though: potato peelings; pepper stalks; onion skin... everything. It will even take cooked food if you don't complete your meal. We are veggies and give ours to our hens, but it would take anything.
 
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skyblueinBaku

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  • Apr 4, 2021
  • #112
Marty said:
They were a few left overs from last year, I thought you could save any spuds and they'll grow again once planted. I stored them in cool, dark cupboard but obviously did something wrong.
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Marty, are they leftover seed potatoes or leftover potatoes that were bought to eat? Fresh seed potatoes each year is the way to go. The ones in the picture look like they got a bit too warm and too little light.
 

Marty

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  • Apr 4, 2021
  • #113
skyblueindorset said:
Marty, are they leftover seed potatoes or leftover potatoes that were bought to eat? Fresh seed potatoes each year is the way to go. The ones in the picture look like they got a bit too warm and too little light.
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I planted seed potatoes last year I purchased from a garden store, then they grew a heap more spuds and these are some I didn't eat, so, wrapped them individually in kitchen roll then wrapped them into a tea towel and stuck them at the back of the cupboard in my kitchen. They haven't seen light since probably July/August.
 

skyblueinBaku

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  • Apr 5, 2021
  • #114
Marty said:
I planted seed potatoes last year I purchased from a garden store, then they grew a heap more spuds and these are some I didn't eat, so, wrapped them individually in kitchen roll then wrapped them into a tea towel and stuck them at the back of the cupboard in my kitchen. They haven't seen light since probably July/August.
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Personally, I'd bin them and get new seed potatoes.
 
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Marty

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  • Apr 16, 2022
  • #115
Any ideas what these are? They've attached themselves to my roses. Quite happy to leave them if they're ok and won't destroy everything in the garden.
 

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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 16, 2022
  • #116
Marty said:
Any ideas what these are? They've attached themselves to my roses. Quite happy to leave them if they're ok and won't destroy everything in the garden.
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They look like Aphids to me.
It doesn’t look like they’re going to go hungry.
 
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Marty

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  • Aug 18, 2024
  • #117
Dug up 2 tubs of potatoes today, got 4.7kg of edible ones. Chuffed to bits with it, and they're mostly of a decent size. Thew away another 1kg of ones that have gone bad/green.

Now that I've started keeping records of rough quantities I can successfully grow for the past few years, I'm going to upscale next year, and I'll hopefully be able to grow about 75% of our vegetable needs for the year.
 
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rob9872

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  • Aug 18, 2024
  • #118
Marty said:
Dug up 2 tubs of potatoes today, got 4.7kg of edible ones. Chuffed to bits with it, and they're mostly of a decent size. Thew away another 1kg of ones that have gone bad/green.

Now that I've started keeping records of rough quantities I can successfully grow for the past few years, I'm going to upscale next year, and I'll hopefully be able to grow about 75% of our vegetable needs for the year.
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Use the ones that have gone bad to grow stalks and stick them back in
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 18, 2024
  • #119
Missing the old compost corner down Pailton social club reading this, Trevor, Bernard, Bob,et al,carry on chaps!
 

SBAndy

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  • Aug 18, 2024
  • #120
Finally got round to building the raised beds I’d been planning to build for the last 4-5 years. Dual-height, so got some at a foot and some at 2 foot. Smartens up the garden massively. Now to fill them! Going to be next season before I start looking at growing though.
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 18, 2024
  • #121
SBAndy said:
Finally got round to building the raised beds I’d been planning to build for the last 4-5 years. Dual-height, so got some at a foot and some at 2 foot. Smartens up the garden massively. Now to fill them! Going to be next season before I start looking at growing though.
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Don't use the words two and foot in the same sentence pl!🫣
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Aug 18, 2024
  • #122
mrtrench not logged on for a while
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 18, 2024
  • #123
Gynnsthetonic said:
mrtrench not logged on for a while
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No he does stay out of things from time to time, hoping all is well in his (smallholding)? out towards Wale's I believe
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Aug 18, 2024
  • #124
wingy said:
No he does stay out of things from time to time, hoping all is well in his (smallholding)? out towards Wale's I believe
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Sounds idyllic, no Internet in them parts, out of the way of all the madness going on in the world
 
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Marty

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  • May 6, 2025
  • #125
Taking care of the garden this past weekend and noticed 4 different types of bee visiting, Common Carder, Red Tailed, Buff Tailed and another I was unable to identify. Get regular visits from a pair of goldfinches and at least 20 tits of different varieties, but mainly coal and blue. Robins etc. hoping to attract some butterflies and ladybirds this year with a bit of luck.

I'm looking pritty good at being self sufficient for potatoes this year, as well as carrots and onions. First batch is due out in 2 weeks. Strawberries and Blueberries have just flowered too, so should keep us through summer and have some frozen/jams too.
 
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wingy

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  • May 6, 2025
  • #126
Marty said:
Taking care of the garden this past weekend and noticed 4 different types of bee visiting, Common Carder, Red Tailed, Buff Tailed and another I was unable to identify. Get regular visits from a pair of goldfinches and at least 20 tits of different varieties, but mainly coal and blue. Robins etc. hoping to attract some butterflies and ladybirds this year with a bit of luck.

I'm looking pritty good at being self sufficient for potatoes this year, as well as carrots and onions. First batch is due out in 2 weeks. Strawberries and Blueberries have just flowered too, so should keep us through summer and have some frozen/jams too.
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It's the way ahead, get a few chicken's and a couple of pigs as well.
 
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Marty

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  • May 6, 2025
  • #127
wingy said:
It's the way ahead, get a few chicken's and a couple of pigs as well.
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Chickens are in the plan, probably going to get Orpingtons, good natured and fairly decent layers, possibly this year but most likely next, supplies are bought, just need to get round to building it. Ideally long term we're looking at buying in the region of 5-10 acres. Everything we've found is either in the middle of nowhere with poor transport links or far too expensive.
 
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Captain Dart

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  • May 6, 2025
  • #128
Marty said:
Chickens are in the plan, probably going to get Orpingtons, good natured and fairly decent layers, possibly this year but most likely next, supplies are bought, just need to get round to building it. Ideally long term we're looking at buying in the region of 5-10 acres. Everything we've found is either in the middle of nowhere with poor transport links or far too expensive.
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Yeah land has got very expensive, if it's convenient for you a rich horsey type will probably price you out of the market.

I am content to have an allotment. Good luck with the chickens.
 

Ectemnius

Member
  • May 6, 2025
  • #129
Marty said:
Taking care of the garden this past weekend and noticed 4 different types of bee visiting, Common Carder, Red Tailed, Buff Tailed and another I was unable to identify. Get regular visits from a pair of goldfinches and at least 20 tits of different varieties, but mainly coal and blue. Robins etc. hoping to attract some butterflies and ladybirds this year with a bit of luck.

I'm looking pritty good at being self sufficient for potatoes this year, as well as carrots and onions. First batch is due out in 2 weeks. Strawberries and Blueberries have just flowered too, so should keep us through summer and have some frozen/jams too.
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May help with your Bumblebee ID's Marty. Bumblebee species guide - Bumblebee Conservation Trust
 
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Mcbean

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  • May 8, 2025
  • #130
Can i plant my beans now ? ( not runner beans) but blue and green pods ( bit like french beans ) - just were given the bean seeds and they are lovely to eat - they are about 9 ins tall - have already moved them from 9cm pot to a 20cm but we will be away for a week with no one to water them
 

Captain Dart

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  • May 8, 2025
  • #131
Mcbean said:
Can i plant my beans now ? ( not runner beans) but blue and green pods ( bit like french beans ) - just were given the bean seeds and they are lovely to eat - they are about 9 ins tall - have already moved them from 9cm pot to a 20cm but we will be away for a week with no one to water them
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With a name like McBean surely you should know.
 
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pitts head

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  • Jun 8, 2025
  • #132
Just started a little veg patch at the top of the garden.
It's quite a shady area, a fence and next doors tree overhanging.
Not sure how good the soil is.
Any recomendations for veg plants that can handle shade?, thinking leafy greens.
So far Radishes are very easy to grow they are flourishing.
Courgette seeds are very tempermental getting a 1 in 6 germination.
Lettuce looks promising.
Purple Sprouting Broccoli looks like it may work.
Spring Onions are disappointing.
 
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lifeskyblue

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  • Jun 8, 2025
  • #133
pitts head said:
Just started a little veg patch at the top of the garden.
It's quite a shady area, a fence and next doors tree overhanging.
Not sure how good the soil is.
Any recomendations for veg plants that can handle shade?, thinking leafy greens.
So far Radishes are very easy to grow they are flourishing.
Courgette seeds are very tempermental getting a 1 in 6 germination.
Lettuce looks promising.
Purple Sprouting Broccoli looks like it may work.
Spring Onions are disappointing.
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How big the area? Yes re lettuce. Also try perpetual spinach. Perhaps a few leeks (I planted mine today), beetroot will still grow and a couple of squashes (if you can get plants rather than start from seed)…butternut squash or a baked potato squash or a pumpkin.
 

pitts head

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  • Jun 8, 2025
  • #134
Thanks for that, it's about 20 foot by 10 foot.
 

lifeskyblue

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  • Jun 8, 2025
  • #135
pitts head said:
Thanks for that, it's about 20 foot by 10 foot.
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Squashes take up a lot of space so I would limit the number of them. lettuce and spinach dont take up much space and kale ok if you want a winter veg.
Soft fruits are worth thinking about for future years (gooseberries, red and black currants give a good return if soil decent).
 

lifeskyblue

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  • Jun 8, 2025
  • #136
French beans also decent but like sun
 

Mcbean

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  • Jun 9, 2025
  • #137
Rainbow chard seems to do ok in a shady plot we have
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Jun 12, 2025
  • #138
Couple of cauli from the garden. They have to be cropped as soon as they flower.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jun 12, 2025
  • #139
Captain Dart said:
Couple of cauli from the garden. They have to be cropped as soon as they flower.
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Otherwise they’d be cauliseedpods?
 

Captain Dart

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  • Jun 12, 2025
  • #140
shmmeee said:
Otherwise they’d be cauliseedpods?
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Slimey crawly things get in when the flower heads grow and gaps appear, you have to check carefully anyway otherwise you might eat a slug.
 
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