Grendel
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Correct - I remember games in the 80's where although there was no actual aggression the comments would have been worse than the average Millwall fan at the Den
Yorkshire never had an overseas player or anyone not born in Yorkshire playing for them until the early 90s. Might have been tendulker who was the first I think,
Not surprising really - Yorkshire Cricket Club has always been a pretty odd place thats never moved on from the 50's
There are now the claims from Essex and frankly I wouldn't be surprised if similar stories weren't coming out of a lot of counties. It's a game synonomous with being run by old middle-class white men. It has probably been ignored because as far as those running the game are concerned all of it is absolutely fine and there's no problem, and others were too scared to speak out for fear of what it would do to their careers.
And worse they’ll be plenty who don’t think it’s wrong to make jokes or pick players because they can say their names more easily. We are at our worst a very us and them society. Cricket and other sports have such a responsibility to be places where all that shit doesn’t happen.There are now the claims from Essex and frankly I wouldn't be surprised if similar stories weren't coming out of a lot of counties. It's a game synonomous with being run by old middle-class white men. It has probably been ignored because as far as those running the game are concerned all of it is absolutely fine and there's no problem, and others were too scared to speak out for fear of what it would do to their careers.
And worse they’ll be plenty who don’t think it’s wrong to make jokes or pick players because they can say their names more easily. We are at our worst a very us and them society. Cricket and other sports have such a responsibility to be places where all that shit doesn’t happen.
Thought Rafiq was excellent today. Lucid real, honest. Very reliable witness
Court of human opinion and Yorkshire had their chance and failedIt is worth pointing out he can make accusations without reprisal in that environment - he constantly said he didn’t want individuals named - but did name them. So now aspirations are cast on David Lloyd and Joe Root has amnesia at best.
Yorkshire is a very different animal to most other clubs - I’ve no doubt that a lot of what’s said is true but I cannot see how someone can be able to do this without any form of comeback at all
David Lloyd has apologised and Gary Ballance so I think his memory seems sound. Reliable if you willIt is worth pointing out he can make accusations without reprisal in that environment - he constantly said he didn’t want individuals named - but did name them. So now aspirations are cast on David Lloyd and Joe Root has amnesia at best.
Yorkshire is a very different animal to most other clubs - I’ve no doubt that a lot of what’s said is true but I cannot see how someone can be able to do this without any form of comeback at all
David Lloyd has apologised and Gary Ballance so I think his memory seems sound. Reliable if you will
According to the testimony today Ballances words were not considered an apology and Vaughan’s reputation is trashed
Vaughan probably won’t work in mainstream media again. Really bad look denying those comments.
They corroborated his evidenceAccording to the testimony today Ballances words were not considered an apology and Vaughan’s reputation is trashed
They corroborated his evidence
True and he’s been quiet since and others to rafiq didVaughan didn’t?
True and he’s been quiet since and others to rafiq did
Yep other than say it’s not true and be as credibleThe point is it’s not a court of law. Rafiq could have said you were a racist today named you personally you could not do a thing about it.
I hope it wasn’t David warnerTim Paine has stood down after sending some sexy text messages to a colleague.
I hope it wasn’t David warner
I hope it wasn’t David warner
Yorkshire never had an overseas player or anyone not born in Yorkshire playing for them until the early 90s. Might have been tendulker who was the first I think,
He Might have been on their books but Tendulker was the first non Yorkshire born player to play first class cricket for them.Vaughan was the first non Yorkshire born player they had on their books wasn't he?
Say what I like and like what I bloody well SayHarry Enfield in 1990...
The BBC will regret cancelling Michael Vaughan
How cowardly of the BBC to axe Michael Vaughan from Test Match Special for the winter Ashes series on the basis of two words – ‘you lot’ – he might or might not have said more than twelve years ago. Is this really how the BBC wants to play this? Anyone can make accusations ofwww.spectator.co.uk
He could always take out a civil suit for defamation...It’s ridiculous - it’s trial by media, no right of defence and hung out to dry - the fiasco also now of BT Sports trying to find a way of not using Fox commentary for the Ashes as Vaughan is a pundit
Agreed.It’s ridiculous - it’s trial by media, no right of defence and hung out to dry - the fiasco also now of BT Sports trying to find a way of not using Fox commentary for the Ashes as Vaughan is a pundit
It’s ridiculous - it’s trial by media, no right of defence and hung out to dry - the fiasco also now of BT Sports trying to find a way of not using Fox commentary for the Ashes as Vaughan is a pundit
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