Transfer Rumour 25/26 Summer Transfer Window (104 Viewers)

[Lamps]

Have a look at Southamptons squad without being biased.


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I stated my reasons for Southampton and it wasn't the players. For instance a new manager I wouldn't have wanted for our club and a side that nearly broke the record for the lowest amount of points. Confidence...or lack of it came be massive. Look at Simms.

What I said is Southampton can go either way. It wouldn't surprise me if they were 2nd or 6th.

 

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[fatso]

Lots say we need a left sided centre half, I would be happy with a right sided one as I don’t think Thomas is any better than Kitching.

Thomas offers a goal threat from set pieces, and is a better defender, and makes fewer mistakes. (In general) but kitching has a better range of passing.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

The biggest things that are plaguing us at the minute is how slow our play is, and the cock ups at the back. Any time we've upped the tempo we've looked really good, but for the most part it's just really pedestrian.

I agree.

I don't think our cock-ups at the back have been as bad as in the past (OK the Rushworth thing was awful but hopefully won't be a common occurrence) but our build up play is so slow and predictable. Again, although it's not quite as bad is starting to give off vibes of the end of the end of MR's tenure - keep possession, pass it sideways, don't create much then concede by a defensive error.

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

Have a look at Southamptons squad without being biased.


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Really good squad, but a completely unproven manager who is going into a high-pressure job where results will be expected immediately.

 

[procdoc]

I agree.

I don't think our cock-ups at the back have been as bad as in the past (OK the Rushworth thing was awful but hopefully won't be a common occurrence) but our build up play is so slow and predictable. Again, although it's not quite as bad is starting to give off vibes of the end of the end of MR's tenure - keep possession, pass it sideways, don't create much then concede by a defensive error.

We created numerous clear cut chances yesterday, what game were you watching

 

[Lamps]

I agree.

I don't think our cock-ups at the back have been as bad as in the past (OK the Rushworth thing was awful but hopefully won't be a common occurrence) but our build up play is so slow and predictable. Again, although it's not quite as bad is starting to give off vibes of the end of the end of MR's tenure - keep possession, pass it sideways, don't create much then concede by a defensive error.

Slow at times yes then more direct when space was found.

Rushworth tried to wrongfoot the striker and failed. It cost us a goal. He will learn from this hopefully. The next goal they got was a mix up with our players which can happen to any side and a very good finish. But overall I was happy with the way we played.

 

[Lamps]

We created numerous clear cut chances yesterday, what game were you watching

What we were missing was a goal predator. Rudoni would also most probably taken advantage.

It was a friendly. We were not at full strength. Some people are trying to make a lot out of not a lot.

 

[AS86]

Looking at what we have, we're in a better place than we were at the start of last season. We won't be chopping and changing anywhere near as much for starters. We've got a clear no 1 keeper for now, a favoured cb pairing, means to give Milan and Sakamoto a rest, Dasilva actually performing, Grimes for a full season, EMC and Rudoni settled in their strongest positions, seems all but certain Haji will be playing through the middle, no major injuries and some youngsters a lot closer to the first team. Few more inevitable incomings, hopefully including an experienced organiser at the back and we should be on for another good season

 

[shmmeee]

Slow at times yes then more direct when space was found.

Rushworth tried to wrongfoot the striker and failed. It cost us a goal. He will learn from this hopefully. The next goal they got was a mix up with our players which can happen to any side and a very good finish. But overall I was happy with the way we played.

The strikers basically gave up making runs at one point because Statty Grimes never looked up. Our midfield is incredibly pedestrian. The number of times we are in good positions and turn back to the CBs drives me spare. Same issues as last season: sit in and hit us on the break and we’ve got no answers.

 

[Snaily]

We needed a GK, ST, CB, No. 8 (to a lesser extent).
We’ve added only 1. Finish 5-10 seems likely

 

[Cally Fedora]

This is exactly the sort of window we need. Wind back a few seasons and the scenario by now would be the likes of Thomas, Wright, Rudoni and anyone else of value would be gone and we’d have some cheap pick ups coming in far from guaranteed to come off. Ironically the one position we are really short in is RB. Assuming MVE is off it’s the only position we have just 1 proven starter.

 

[Nick]

We need a lcb and a striker.

Lcb we need now.

Striker, we need to move people on before hand

 

[procdoc]

The strikers basically gave up making runs at one point because Statty Grimes never looked up. Our midfield is incredibly pedestrian. The number of times we are in good positions and turn back to the CBs drives me spare. Same issues as last season: sit in and hit us on the break and we’ve got no answers.

Simply not true. Every time Grimes gets the ball he looks forward. The forward pass isn’t always on. That’s why he will keep the ball moving. You can’t just pass it forward constantly, that’s not how football works. You don’t half come out with some nonsense

 

[Deity]

The strikers basically gave up making runs at one point because Statty Grimes never looked up. Our midfield is incredibly pedestrian. The number of times we are in good positions and turn back to the CBs drives me spare. Same issues as last season: sit in and hit us on the break and we’ve got no answers.

Football isn’t for you.

 

[Lamps]

The strikers basically gave up making runs at one point because Statty Grimes never looked up. Our midfield is incredibly pedestrian. The number of times we are in good positions and turn back to the CBs drives me spare. Same issues as last season: sit in and hit us on the break and we’ve got no answers.

Are you trying to look clueless or just looking for an argument?

Grimes job is to keep the ball and protect the defenders. If he never looks up how does he deliver defence splitting passes? The last time this was said he delivered 2 defence splitting passes.

 

[covcity4life]

Maybe lampard wants loans in for remaining incomings and thus we have to wait till end of window as is typical when dealing with parent clubs assessing who they can do without in the upcoming season

 

[Lamps]

Maybe lampard wants loans in for remaining incomings and thus we have to wait till end of window as is typical when dealing with parent clubs assessing who they can do without in the upcoming season

Should see more movement in this direction in the next two weeks or so when the Prem season starts.

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

We need a lcb and a striker.

Lcb we need now.

Striker, we need to move people on before hand

At this stage I really can't see another striker coming in unless the club receives a very good offer for one of the main three.

We'll certainly bring in another CB and probably a versatile winger.

 

[stupot07]

That team finished in the top 6

That's great if you assume that none of the other 23 teams have strengthened their starting 11.

You will accuse me of negativity, but I'm just saying you want to be continuously improvement, for example, how do we bridge the gap to 4th? How do we bridge the gap to 3rd? And so on.

 

[long way home]

Yeah, i can see a CB, RM before we see a FW. The only way that happens is if Simms or BTA or moved on.

 

[Evo1883]

Yeah when you’re classing Jake Bidwell as a CB signing and pretending the kids are there on merit it’s not the best summer is it?

I think we ideally would have 2 or 3 more in the door , but I think the team is good enough to start the season today and still make the playoffs

 

[trueskyblue12]

Slowly coming to terms with another season of BTA and Simms up top

 

[Terry_dactyl]

Slowly coming to terms with another season of BTA and Simms up top

And Wright?

 

[Telfer85]

I think a winger that can play either side is more important than a striker right now. We need someone pacy and likes to run at defenders different to tats and EMC.

I feel we will still score goals even if our strikers aren’t banging in 20 a season.

A winger and a top cb would be priorities for me minimum. Then if we can offload a striker then look at it.

 

[Evo1883]

The strikers basically gave up making runs at one point because Statty Grimes never looked up. Our midfield is incredibly pedestrian. The number of times we are in good positions and turn back to the CBs drives me spare. Same issues as last season: sit in and hit us on the break and we’ve got no answers.

If we signed a box to box midfielder tomorrow with high energy it would be sheaf that drops out not statty

 

[procdoc]

That's great if you assume that none of the other 23 teams have strengthened their starting 11.

You will accuse me of negativity, but I'm just saying you want to be continuously improvement, for example, how do we bridge the gap to 4th? How do we bridge the gap to 3rd? And so on.

We have bought in 3 already to improve the squad and sold Binks

 

[stupot07]

We have bought in 3 already to improve the squad and sold Binks

Which I was I said, we have improved the squad in the fullback area but neither KKH or Breu are likely to start on Saturday so we haven't really improved our main starting 11. Rushworth is a direct replacement for injured Dovin.

The window isn't over yet, but as it stands I can see why people are feeling a little underwhelmed.

 

[Gibbo]

are you being serious?

watford
norwich
West Brom

All had good windows

then you have the likes of Ipswich, saints and Leicester who will all be up there

then Sheffield Utd, boro, Wrexham and blues

the league is wide open and stronger than last season

More does not equal better. Maybe their teams were pretty rubbish in the first place. Ours is not

 

[Lamps]

That's great if you assume that none of the other 23 teams have strengthened their starting 11.

You will accuse me of negativity, but I'm just saying you want to be continuously improvement, for example, how do we bridge the gap to 4th? How do we bridge the gap to 3rd? And so on.

Have put up all the signings from all clubs. We wouldn't be interested in the vast majority. Those who have signed players we would be interested in have also sold some of their best players. For instance Norwich have sold players that got about half their goals last season. Sheffield United have bought 2 players I've never heard of before and got 2 Prem loans that have never played as high as the Championship before.

Top 4 last season? 3 of them went up. Sheffield United are still with us. I'm sure Ipswich will finish above us. But there's questions about Southampton and Leicester. Birmingham could go either way. I consider us to be in a better position than them as things stand.

This is why I predict us to be 2nd to 4th.

 

[procdoc]

Which I was I said, we have improved the squad in the fullback area but neither KKH or Breu are likely to start on Saturday so we haven't really improved our main starting 11. Rushworth is a direct replacement for injured Dovin.

The window isn't over yet, but as it stands I can see why people are feeling a little underwhelmed.

That’s more down to people’s unrealistic expectations than anything else. The sensible posters on here said all along that there wouldn’t be as much business as the previous two summers

 

[Gibbo]

Can we just rename this thread 'Bedwetter Central' and have another thread for the Transfer window.

Simms or BTA are cover for Wright. Buy anew striker and what do you do with Wright? As 1st choices, Simms and BTA are not good enough, but as squad cover they are fine.

Frank and his team have used the summer to work on the defence, which is where the stats were pretty clear we needed to spend. I would still prefer a new hard boiled central defender but if one can't be found that is exactly what we want at the right price I am happy to wait.

The bedwetters seem to think acquisition is a) the be all and end all and under value coaching and training b) acquisition is like going into a sweetie shop, when you just gorge on your favourites and c) don't appreciate that finding the right chap, for the right money within the timescale when you are not Man City or Liverpool is not easy d) carries a lot of risk - we have had our fair share of duds

 

[Lamps]

That’s more down to people’s unrealistic expectations than anything else. The sensible posters on here said all along that there wouldn’t be as much business as the previous two summers

If we had sold any 1st team players I would have expected more. But we sold/released players not good enough and have added quality.

We don't need numbers. We have enough players. It's better quality players we need and that can take time.

 

[Cally Fedora]

Exactly. We don’t need lots of names. Just the right ones.

 

[Lamps]

Exactly. We don’t need lots of names. Just the right ones.

So we're in agreement then?

 

[long way home]

To get better quality tjan we already have is the key but not easy to get deals over the line. Its a chain, we get good quality then the selling tean have to have surplus in that position or have to replace.

Its really not easy and being to passive can lead to losing a target. But if you over chase and put all on one target others potentially get away leaving you without. Then desperation creates bad decisions.

We are going to have to get to used to twitter announcements and very in the way of build up to incoming and outgoing.