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mr_monkey

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  • Aug 4, 2021
  • #6,616
fernandopartridge said:
He was saying that Patterson was really impressed with the offer. I think the offer to Patterson has gone on Waghorn hence the bitterness

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But logically why would we have offered Patterson a great deal when he wouldn't have been a starter it makes literally no sense and I'm guessing that it's another thing (like the stuff today) that Dawkins has just invented for attention
 
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COV

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  • Aug 4, 2021
  • #6,617
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Don't know the circumstances under which he left, but they'd be right to upgrade on him if they could. It is what it is, I'm not enamoured with our business this summer but there's only a handful of clubs who I think have recruited well so far.
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can’t get my head around Forest, they struggled last year and have done nothing
 

David O'Day

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  • Aug 4, 2021
  • #6,618
why pay any attention to anything dawkins says? he was mates with a few players who have mostly if not all left
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 4, 2021
  • #6,619
COV said:
can’t get my head around Forest, they struggled last year and have done nothing
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Was speaking to a Reading fan today who said they were under embargo as well, first I'd heard of it. Forest's ownership is a total mess and I'd guess there the right hand doesn't know what the left is doing
 
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COV

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  • Aug 4, 2021
  • #6,620
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Was speaking to a Reading fan today who said they were under embargo as well, first I'd heard of it. Forest's ownership is a total mess and I'd guess there the right hand doesn't know what the left is doing
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I had no idea about Reading either… good for us though
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Aug 4, 2021
  • #6,621
He’s deleted it now anyway
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 4, 2021
  • #6,622
COV said:
maybe Robins just didn’t like the look of him or didn’t want to offer 2 years- are we certain that this was a financial decision or is that part of the Dawkins rumour?
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I guess we’ll know when we either do or don’t sign someone else.
 

SBAndy

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  • Aug 4, 2021
  • #6,623
fernandopartridge said:
Who cares? We want established strikers at this level we have to pay for them

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Did we need 2 established Championship strikers though (and yes I’m stretching that a fair bit with Gyokeres)? As it stands we will have at least one of two £1m strikers or potentially our top earner on the bench. That’s not even taking Godden into consideration who may be hard pushed to make the squad. Then you look at the general lack of cover elsewhere…I dunno. Three days away from the season opener, it’s a little unnerving.

If Clarke-Salter comes in then fantastic, but there are still gaps.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Aug 4, 2021
  • #6,624
SlowerThanPlatt said:
He’s deleted it now anyway
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I wonder if that was because it was total bollocks?
 
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mr_monkey

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  • Aug 4, 2021
  • #6,625
Ccfcisparks said:
I wonder if that was because it was total bollocks?
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100% grade 1 horseshite
 

lordy_87

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  • Aug 4, 2021
  • #6,626
Dawkins talks shite but I think Cranie would be a good signing.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 4, 2021
  • #6,627
COV said:
I had no idea about Reading either… good for us though
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Not good at all by the latest sounds of it

Reading FC in race against time to land new signings for start of Championship campaign at Stoke - Berkshire Live (getreading.co.uk)

They've lost over £90 million in the last 3 seasons, you're 'allowed' to lose just £39m. Pretty damning that even despite being so short on players the manager still won't consider McNulty
 

COV

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  • Aug 4, 2021
  • #6,628
shmmeee said:
I guess we’ll know when we either do or don’t sign someone else.
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Doubt that’s going to happen before Sunday now, apart from the one we already know about
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 4, 2021
  • #6,629
SBAndy said:
Did we need 2 established Championship strikers though (and yes I’m stretching that a fair bit with Gyokeres)? As it stands we will have at least one of two £1m strikers or potentially our top earner on the bench. That’s not even taking Godden into consideration who may be hard pushed to make the squad. Then you look at the general lack of cover elsewhere…I dunno. Three days away from the season opener, it’s a little unnerving.

If Clarke-Salter comes in then fantastic, but there are still gaps.
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Perhaps we saw what trouble we ended up in last season when Walker and Godden were out for as long as they were. I agree though the defence seemed the bigger priority
 

COV

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  • Aug 4, 2021
  • #6,630
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Not good at all by the latest sounds of it

Reading FC in race against time to land new signings for start of Championship campaign at Stoke - Berkshire Live (getreading.co.uk)

They've lost over £90 million in the last 3 seasons, you're 'allowed' to lose just £39m. Pretty damning that even despite being so short on players the manager still won't consider McNulty
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i just read it too- they look like they’re in a worse state than Derby- “sustainability issues”. This is probably why some people were predicting them to go down, thought that was strange at the time
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 4, 2021
  • #6,631
SBAndy said:
Did we need 2 established Championship strikers though (and yes I’m stretching that a fair bit with Gyokeres)? As it stands we will have at least one of two £1m strikers or potentially our top earner on the bench. That’s not even taking Godden into consideration who may be hard pushed to make the squad. Then you look at the general lack of cover elsewhere…I dunno. Three days away from the season opener, it’s a little unnerving.

If Clarke-Salter comes in then fantastic, but there are still gaps.
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Yes. Despite the nonsense spoken on here attack was a far bigger problem than defence last year, we didn't score enough goals.
We need a centre back and some temporary cover in midfield.

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larry_david

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  • Aug 4, 2021
  • #6,632
Tomorrow could be interesting then. New away kit is due any minute now. Cashman deal to be completed then the loan out to Rochdale. Possibly the Chelsea lad in as well.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 4, 2021
  • #6,633
COV said:
i just read it too- they look like they’re in a worse state than Derby- “sustainability issues”. This is probably why some people were predicting them to go down, thought that was strange at the time
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The one upshot for clubs like ourselves is that there will always be one or two off the scale basket cases and another few who underperform. Just what astounds me is how long Derby kept getting away with it
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 4, 2021
  • #6,634
fernandopartridge said:
Yes. Despite the nonsense spoken on here attack was a far bigger problem than defence last year, we didn't score enough goals.
We need a centre back and some temporary cover in midfield.

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We didn’t create any chances. Because our defence and midfield were poor on the ball and out GK couldn’t command his box so we got dragged back to the 18 yard line half the games.

Walker and Godden both put away the chances they actually got. Isolating a different set of strikers ain’t going to solve the goal scoring problem.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 4, 2021
  • #6,635
shmmeee said:
We can do this every time these rumours pop up and the actual deals were making seem to back it up. Or we can live in constant lala land where any minute now we’re going to sign someone. The people arguing here have so far gone from “they haven’t come back from training yet” to “the media staff aren’t here yet” to “we aren’t back from Spain yet” to “the season doesn’t start for weeks” to “the transfer window closes in a month”.

After a while mate you’ve got to stop hoping that quacking waddling thing coming over the hill might turn out to be a swan.
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We will recruit 2 loan players and a permanent before end of august I’m pretty sure
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 4, 2021
  • #6,636
Sky Blue Pete said:
We will recruit 2 loan players and a permanent before end of august I’m pretty sure
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We’ll see, but unless we’re about to pull something very surprising out the bag we seem over stocked in attack and massively under stocked everywhere else.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 4, 2021
  • #6,637
shmmeee said:
We didn’t create any chances. Because our defence and midfield were poor on the ball and out GK couldn’t command his box so we got dragged back to the 18 yard line half the games.

Walker and Godden both put away the chances they actually got. Isolating a different set of strikers ain’t going to solve the goal scoring problem.
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We scored more than 9 other sides, but only 3 sides conceded more.
 
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junglej13

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  • Aug 4, 2021
  • #6,638
Sky Blue Pete said:
We will recruit 2 loan players and a permanent before end of august I’m pretty sure
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Agree with this. Maybe more if we sell Hamer or O'Hare.
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 4, 2021
  • #6,639
Brighton Sky Blue said:
We scored more than 9 other sides, but only 3 sides conceded more.
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And we were 21st in xG. Which suggests we scored more than we should’ve given the chances we created. Which suggests the strikers weren’t the issue.
 

COV

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  • Aug 4, 2021
  • #6,640
junglej13 said:
Agree with this. Maybe more if we sell Hamer or O'Hare.
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if we sense that either of those two going is even the faintest possibility I’d hope we have replacements earmarked already
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 4, 2021
  • #6,641
shmmeee said:
And we were 21st in xG. Which suggests we scored more than we should’ve given the chances we created. Which suggests the strikers weren’t the issue.
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Luton who were never in particular trouble only scored 41
 
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rexo87

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  • Aug 4, 2021
  • #6,642
Sky Blue Pete said:
We will recruit 2 loan players and a permanent before end of august I’m pretty sure
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Guessing you mean Cashman as the permanent?


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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 4, 2021
  • #6,643
rexo87 said:
Guessing you mean Cashman as the permanent?


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Nah. Lawrence Shankland at long last
 
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COV

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  • Aug 4, 2021
  • #6,644
shmmeee said:
And we were 21st in xG. Which suggests we scored more than we should’ve given the chances we created. Which suggests the strikers weren’t the issue.
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take the point but the stats can also show different things

We were 18th in clean sheets (28%) but we were 21st in failed to score (39%), meaning more goals in fewer games- eg Millwall- as opposed to consistently scoring. You only get 3 points no matter how many you score in a win, you never get 3 points if you don’t score

and if I’ve misread those stats ignore me
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 4, 2021
  • #6,645
COV said:
take the point but the stats can also show different things

We were 18th in clean sheets (28%) but we were 21st in failed to score (39%), meaning more goals in fewer games- eg Millwall- as opposed to consistently scorin
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I don’t know how much you watched is last season but we had to basically forgo any attacking intent to stop leaking goals. At times playing with five across the back, three DMs and the leagues most defensive AM. We also had to completely give up playing out from the back.

There’s more to scoring goals than the strikers on the pitch.

We’ve also got a manager who clearly doesn’t like to go on the offensive. We won L1 by dominating the middle of the park. We don’t have the quality to do that at this level and haven’t tried to rectify that.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 4, 2021
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COV said:
take the point but the stats can also show different things

We were 18th in clean sheets (28%) but we were 21st in failed to score (39%), meaning more goals in fewer games- eg Millwall- as opposed to consistently scorin
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My gut feeling of how the season went was we had a tendency to concede soft goals combined with being penned in our own half leaving the forwards to feed off scraps. Yes we needed to upgrade on Biamou and Baka but goalkeeper and central defence to me were the biggest priorities.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Aug 4, 2021
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We can discuss stats as much as we want but we’ve lost possibly our best centre back from last season and, as it stands, not replaced them meaning we’re relying on a guy to play LCB who performed pretty poorly there for long periods last season, our middle CB is now 35 and has always been prone to errors plus our RCB who has has major injury problems and only get into the side at the very tail end of the season when a lot of our opponents had nothing to play for.

It’s a concern.
 
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COV

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  • Aug 4, 2021
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shmmeee said:
I don’t know how much you watched is last season but we had to basically forgo any attacking intent to stop leaking goals. At times playing with five across the back, three DMs and the leagues most defensive AM. We also had to completely give up playing out from the back.

There’s more to scoring goals than the strikers on the pitch.
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I don’t disagree at all so don’t get wound up, however my perception on many occasions was that we had to play like that because our attackers were incapable of keeping possession & we’d just give it straight back to them. I don’t think I ever felt confident going into games that we were going to score.
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 4, 2021
  • #6,649
COV said:
I don’t disagree at all so don’t get wound up, however I thought on many occasions we had to play like that because our attackers were incapable of keeping possession & we’d just give it straight back to them. I don’t think I ever felt confident going into games that we were going to score.
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Im not wound up. I just disagree with you.

We played most of last season without our two main strikers. This place was full of people saying how once we got them back we looked much better.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 4, 2021
  • #6,650
shmmeee said:
We didn’t create any chances. Because our defence and midfield were poor on the ball and out GK couldn’t command his box so we got dragged back to the 18 yard line half the games.

Walker and Godden both put away the chances they actually got. Isolating a different set of strikers ain’t going to solve the goal scoring problem.
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The xG isn't just about midfield creativity. Good strikers don't just score goals they create space for others to score. We had Biamou who was not very good at that. We've upgraded to a player that will score and create more.

Defensively we were poor for the first quarter of the season but after that kept 12 clean sheets which is fine.



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