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Anyway, my last post on this thread as didn't intend on it becoming a political debate. It was supposed to be just about the likelihood and timing of the next curtailment of the football season. Can't say I'd be that bothered if the season was postponed as I've got a real feeling of anticlimax...

The excess deaths at home figure being nearly 1k a week every week for 6 months says something is amiss

I slag you off usually but you were spot on here

Watching The Fall on Netflix at the minute, think it might have been on tv previously. Gillian Anderson is in it looking smoking hot.

I live in Glossop which is on the edge of the peaks, hilly and wet all year round. Though tbf the proper lockdown period was dry and unseasonably warm

Lol yeah

I went to the new world trade centre a couple of years ago. The 911 museum there is really interesting, although I do find it a bit crass in some respects. The picture below is the footprint of one of the towers. They're both like this now.

I saw it live as well as wasn't at work that day. I only got up about midday.

Given the money to local authority public health teams and given them access to all of the data. They do contact tracing all of the time. They can decide on local restrictions, not some c**t in Whitehall

We've decided to ignore our entire public health infrastructure to award big contracts to Serco and Deloitte. I'm not sure if it is just incompetence or deliberate. If the latter it is a heist in plain sight.

I'm going by the numbers of the corona website published by DH / PHE. 600 in England, which given there are 200 NHS acute hospitals tallies OK with 2 in Cov.

Imagine that, we'll win the Premier League the year after on a similar basis after lockdown is reimposed just as we go a goal up against Man City in the opening game. The only goal scored in that season.

The economy is mostly confidence, this government instills next to no confidence in many people.

Not sure where you're getting your numbers from but there are far more in hospital. Not that it is a reliable barometer as I have a strong suspicion that admissions are being suppressed. See the coronavirus thread.

The new testing system isn't happening mate, it is pie in the sky nonsense. The accountancy firm Deloitte will push it as being possible for as long as the government is willing to pay them. Deloitte gets another huge COVID contract – for ‘crazy’ plan to test millions each day

By December we might be over the next peak. At the minute though I wouldn't get your hopes up.

I'm pretty sure most of the figures are being massaged, people are not being admitted to hospital who should be. That's why the deaths at home is way in excess of normal and has been every week since March, yet they're not Covid deaths because these people are not tested. Given the excess rates...

Yes. The UK government has gone public with this but it is only an agreement in principle, which it's not hard to imagine is predicated on continued access to the EU market. It gives the Tories a reason to row back from no deal that they can sell to the public.

The football season is paused? Cases are rising. Pillar 1 testing is going up which is ominous. If we carry on as we are i doubt we'll get past the end of this month.

On what basis? No tariff on imported parts? You'd have to think that tariff / barrier-free access to the European market is still a pretty big ticket for Nissan in Sunderland