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Gaz, again you are not listening. :facepalm: I predicted relegation. I did not predict us to be down before Christmas!!

Guy on CWR now. "No spark in the team whatsoever." "Only about 4 players playing for the shirt." Tells you everything you need to know. Playing for the shirt and playing with spirit and putting the effort in has nothing to do with the quality of the players.

Gaz, that is tosh and you know it is. Nothing to do with the FACT Sisu have ripped the spine out of the team. YES IT IS. Nothing to do with the total lack of investment in the team. YES IT IS Sell off the best players and invest nothing back in = a club going down. - AGREE. That doesn't mean...

I predicted relegation too. No way on this earth did I think we would be so far adrift so early in the season though. There is something seriously wrong besides all the lack of investment and quality of player issues. We are doing much worse than any of us predicted at this stage of the season.

Anyone else half expecting Harrison to come out and do the post-match interview rather than Thorn? I wouldn't be surprised. Thorn seems at his wits end and is wilting.

I ask yet again though, were you predicting a 2nd from bottom and 7 points adrift position by the end of November? No! Fact is, none of us did. Most of us said we would be relegated with this team. The fact is though that this manager is going to have us down well before Christmas at this rate...

I just want to see a bit of passion and fight and effort. Is that too much to ask for?

You're missing the point. I am saying that if Thorn is a poor manager it's not going to make a lot of difference how much money he's got, unless it is £20 million or something.

Even if he is a poor manager? You so sure about that?

It will probably be "We were really unlucky because as the forward lined up to score that 2nd goal a mole didn't come up through the earth which could have caused a deflection and prevented the score. We are just not getting the rub of the green at the moment, or indeed of the mole."

But you would expect him to make a cathedral at least into the shape of a cathedral.

Totally agree. They do score a fair few goals though. think if you have goals in your machinery then you always have that belief that you can get back into things.

Bottom by the start of December you mean.

Donny 1 v 0 Southampton Dowie just saying on SSN that Southampton have only had 1 away win in 7 games. Anyone know who that was against? :facepalm:

Ohh dear. Donny just gone 1-0 up against Southampton. :facepalm:

If Thorn goes it would be Carsley.

The fact is no-one knows. Why not promote Carsley to help Thorn though anyway?

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So you were expecting 2nd from bottom and 7 points adrift by the end of November then?

Unfortunately I am inclined to agree, CCFC2011. We may be going down anyway, but I would at least like to see us go down with a bit of a fight. Sounds like yet again we were lethargic this first 45 mins today with no shot on goal.