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When did they said they wanted anything for free?

Or 'Bateman says NOpm'

Well I could say that selling our stadium and all income streams were not the doing of the current owners. But it's a problem they have inherited. What previous owners received is irrelevant now - all that money is long spent. My priority no 1 is to see the club and stadium reunited.

Well, maybe we'll be wiser when the JR goes before the judge ... I think it's a vocal hearing and it could possibly give us some answers. In any case, I don't think much will happen before.

Just out of curiosity ... everybody says 'sisu took the club away to Northampton' ... but is it possible they didn't have other options? It's no secret that CCC/ACL have supported Hoffman/Elliott/Haskel's interests in taking over the club. What if ACL/CCC were in possesion of all the documents...

I still do not agree that the club needs to own the freehold, but I must be missing something. In my mind if the club were to buy the freehold, I think it should be at the total amount the CCC has invested. I am not too sure if the club should pay more. I had this discussion only the other day...

The real madness is the club and stadium not being united. That the stadium profits from the clubs business, but the club doesn't profit from the stadiums business.

... for a hernia operation. http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11719/8997589/ Didn't see it mentioned anywhere on this forum.

Are you certain converting debts to equity wouldn't count? Not that it matters - surely they will have put in a couple of millions to secure the cashflow and settle the administration/liquidation of limited.

1) No, not as long as the council has no intention of selling to sisu. 2) Same answer really - not as long as the priority is to get sisu out and not to unite club and stadium. If JS is serious about never going back as tenant, then the only option is building a new stadium. And so again the...

http://aprisonofmeasuredtime.wordpress.com/2013/09/27/less-reads-exclusive-interview-with-joy-seppala-some-thoughts/ I am not sure if the club 'needs' to own the freehold - but it certainly need to own ACL. Owning the freehold is more a sisu thing - their exit strategy I would think.

I think JS said said 'unite the club and stadium'. Don't be confused if this means have the club in Otium and the stadium interests in ccfc Holdings (as a daughter to Otium). The increased total revenue can be used towards the FFP. Separating the club from the stadium would decrease the value of...

Now you get it. Can we agree the club and ACL should be united?

If the club and ACL were united the total revenue would be north of £20m. That's probably enough to compete on in the Championship. Get promoted and top it up with the PL money and we should be back where we belong.

No - but the total revenue of ACL would help. What is it they forecast for 2014?

There's not much love for the club by any of the stakeholders, are there?

Have the two conditions ever been revealed to the public?

What precisely were the two conditions?

I don't really find percentages interesting. It's pretty much like statistics (although I am a sucker for football stats). Are the numbers even comparable? Does the original rent include matchday cost? And wasn't the £150k offer exclusive matchday cost? But even that is not really relevant, is...