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    CCLSC conversation with TF

    They should continue with The JR because appeal is a corner stone in the legal system. The appeal mechanism is there to protect you and me - everyone. To deprive sisu their right to appeal is simply wrong. If they are granted right to appeal soon it could potentially benefit the club, but if...
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    CCLSC conversation with TF

    If they can't I would hope responsible owners would consider a change of strategy sooner rather than later. If they can - they should just start talking instead of issuing ultimatums. The problem with the appeal is it will take too long to benefit the club. Even if sisu wins it could take years...
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    Things looking up for Joy

    Can we not just co-sign the card from the FL?
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    CCLSC conversation with TF

    Thing is - I don't think they can offer a £175k rent. But if they can't, then they can surely not survive the club playing in Northampton?
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    CCLSC conversation with TF

    This line of argument is a consequence of sisu's strategy of funding the club through loans. But come the day sell up, they will only receive what the buyer is prepared to pay. Then it doesn't matter how much money they are owed. They will receive the value of the business. That means they may...
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    CCLSC conversation with TF

    Wrote my previous reply before seeing this. First - I stand corrected as you say ACL is a direct part having their own barrister. I wasn't sure and think I put appropriate question marks. Second - It's true that any ruling to the lawfulness of the loan is effecting ACL directly. They could...
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    CCLSC conversation with TF

    I totally respect your opinion. - Blackmail. It is not the right term, ultimatum is, but the effect is the same. ACL have set a condition and make the club choose to either get a seat at the negotiations without any security a fair deal will be the outcome, or stay away. What if they agree to...
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    CCLSC conversation with TF

    This has nothing to do with 'you' or 'me' or 'Johnny' or 'Mary'. It's a dispute between two businesses who greatly depend on each other. Who both suffers when they don't work together. Who can't in the short term satisfy their customers, business partners and their owners if they do not work...
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    CCLSC conversation with TF

    No, I said his remarks were opinions.
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    CCLSC conversation with TF

    If ACL decide they won't allow the club home on a short term deal because sisu won't drop the appeal, then I will blame ACL. Absolutely. It's blackmail and an attempt to obstruct the legal system where appeals is an important part.
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    CCLSC conversation with TF

    Why wouldn't I be happy if ACL invites the club to discuss the offer?
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    CCLSC conversation with TF

    Maybe the judge got it wrong? It does happen, you know. His remarks were opinions, not quotes of the laws. Let's wait until the appeals have been exhausted before we take a decision as gospel. In the end the winner writes the history.
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    CCLSC conversation with TF

    No, I just made it all up.
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    CCLSC conversation with TF

    A CEO operates freely within the objectives set by the shareholders. Something very important happened in January 2013 that changed the game and the objectives had to change as well. The deal TF agreed was actually a deal proposed in late 2012 by JS when they still believed the club would...
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    CCLSC conversation with TF

    F/B - yes, sold by the club many years ago. But times are very different now. The lease is gone, the club is playing elsewhere, new politicians at the CCC, new owners, a different financial climate and a new Financial Fair Play regime. Everyone says 'time to move on' but in fact seems to be...
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    CCLSC conversation with TF

    I didn't say the club should own the Ricoh, did I? The club and ACL should be owned by the same owner - whoever the current owner is. Why it hasn't happened yet? Well, ask the council. They don't seem interested in losing their part of ACL and they even seem adamant to stop any attempt of Higgs...
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    CCLSC conversation with TF

    They shouldn't pay anything other than trade costs (products/labour). It's worth nothing to ACL and Compass when the club plays in Northampton.
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    CCLSC conversation with TF

    What kind of deal would a fan owned or fan part-owned club want? It's so easy to spend other peoples money, but if the bill potentially has to be paid by 'me' ...
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    CCLSC conversation with TF

    Well, not today it hasn't.
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    CCLSC conversation with TF

    It's a contract between ACL and Compass. The club can only ask those companies if they agree the club can have the F/B revenue. But this thread again illuminates the fundamental issues of having the club and ACL owned by two different owners with two different objectives.
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