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Both Lampard and Gerrard have been so much better for their club sides than for England. Time for both to retire now. Bring on the new breed.

Good God the Swiss defence is being carved apart. Opening up like the Red Sea. Really like watching Sunday pub football. Brilliant from France, but the Swiss? Dear me.

Football players do annoy me sometimes. Absolute, stonewall, clear cut pen for France and yet the Swiss players surrounding the ref pleading injustice. Clear pen. 100%.

Yep. Supporting City, supporting England, buying a lottery ticket, voting Lib Dem. All completely pointless.

Tell you what, if Switzerland play like this in our Euro qualifying group it'll be a doddle.

This football malarkey fills your head every waking hour doesn't it. My misuss said to me today 'since the World Cup has been on what have you done to help around the house?' I said I see myself in a kind of free role.

Yes, but what about all the other teams who are already out. If they all go home their opposition for the final game won't be there to play them will they and these teams might well need a result to progress!!

He's not a bad manager, just not quite what we need right now. We need young fresh blood out on the field and fresh thinking from the touchline too. I don't like to be too harsh, but you only get 3 games in these tournaments and you have to get the tactics spot on if you wish to advance. Too...

Bit unfair though if the other team need a point to go through and they've got no-one to play against. :whistle:

Think he was just throwing names out there to be honest. No idea why Smalling is even there. No international class at all for me.

I would go for Shaw. Jones at right back, though I can't say I'm too impressed with him, but he can't surely be any worse than Johnson. I would also go with Ox if fit and Lallana. You're right though, the squad is very thin. No idea why Lampard is there. Anyway, drop Johnson, Baines...

And I really hope Hodgson steers away from fielding the old handers for this game. Can't see any point in now doing that, but you can be bound sure that Hodgson won't drop captain Gerrard. If I was Gerrard I would retire now and hand the armband over. Tuesday needs to be fresh blood. If we...

I don't want that though. If we win I want it to be on merit not because the other team is just going through the motions.

Would be better than the other scenario I can envisage. That of Costa Rica now just going through the motions in our game, England winning and the team somehow going home with their heads 'held high.' Hope Costa Rica really go for it against us. If we are to win I don't want it to be by default.

Yep. That's the way I see it. Draw will do for Italy, a win will be needed by Uruguay.

As the commentator just so very nicely summed up, 'Pirlo closed down quickly again.'

If this stays the same and Costa Rica win that will mean that Uruguay will HAVE to beat Italy to make it to the next stage. Be interesting.

No, not taking anything away from Costa Rica, but Italy have been shocking. I notice Pirlo has a bit more attention this evening too. :whistle:

Think Italy have caught the English disease.

Aslo think the pace of this Costa Rica attack will rip our defence to shreds.