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Ask ML about spin, but I would have come to Cov, as Joy, with TF straight after the demise of Dulux. I would have apologised for the mistakes to date and asked what was needed from both sides to move forward. I would have praised the council and looked forward to a successful cooperation in the...

Not denied, but emphasises how badly the relationship managed to collapse. I hold Dulux responsible for a lot of this. He not only ruined it for us and CCFC, but screwed up Joy's SISU business in the process. Her investors wouldn't be too pleased if they got to judge Dulux' record at CCFC.

Yes, but TF and Joy were responsible for the "shenanigans" that pushed the lease extension from 125 years ( mentioned before Wasps ) to 250 for Wasps. would it have been better for Joy to offer to come to Coventry, meet Mutton and Ann out of council offices ( with a council officer as witness...

Which, as it turns out, was possible for a "small" consideration- which as far as we know, Joy didn't offer. Was not offered, but up to her to ask for imo.

And that stadium at a higher total cost than 30m....

A figure of 30m was put about by Fisher for a new stadium build in Lego style. Had Joy paid the 5,5m to Higgs, the 14,4m loan off in full - on the condition that CCC sells their share for circa 6m, added 1 or 2m for a lease extension and demanded the chance to put the deal to full council with...

When SISU arrived, Mutton and Ann Lucas were city fans. We were in the Championship renting a stadium ( at a high price ) with "365 days a year" income potential. We had an option to buy into it. The stadium has a capacity for premiere league games. Car parks, no local residents, planning...

Anyway..... I haven't read the whole thread... But have SISU prepared and shown any plans or financial projections for a stadium, Butts or anywhere else? No. So all wishful thinking. Nothing happening on that front- just a ploy in the negotiations with Wasps ( as with the academy rumour from...

Just pointing out that if we got the Butts, we won't be getting 365 days revenue from car parks or loud events. The Ricoh on a low rent is still the best option for the foreseeable future. Not Perfect, but have heard no better Plan up til now. People accept "365 days Revenue" but never ask what...

The campaign was because of the public address system and the away fans driving on to private estates because of ........ Wait for it Dave..... Lack of car parking....

I would say realistic and true. This is a football club not Wimbledon lawn tennis club. We need a stadium big enough to allow an average of at least 20000,00 which we should get in the Championship. The Butts is too small and noise restrictions will apply. An example is Bayer Leverkusen where...

in other words: greed in the DNA and fxxk the fans who can't get in. You are apparently better off than many others, so you would go with that. Keep the riff raff out eh Grendel?

It is a JR and not a criminal court. It is not a public duty. On what grounds should a bank volunteer such information? To do CCC a favour?

As was the joke claim from SISU for 250000. should also be mentioned

The Bank cannot disclose such details,

Was there one called The Alexandra on the corner? I remember seeing a porn film there ( I think it was called the Alex ). Was drunk with a mate on the way home from somewhere.... Only remember a huge naked girl's arse on the screen...... And then someone farted..... Sort of ruined the moment.

Yes, I judge that they don't like dealing with SISU. In order to judge whether they were justified, I would like to put their actions in context with SISU's actions at the time - and with SISU's past actions.

Not disputing that people doing PR have good points. They are supposed to place the "good" points at the top of the list and leave the "bad" points on page 92, bottom left hand corner.

After the JR we will all be in a better position to make judgement. Then will also be SISU's time to decide whether to stay or go - depending on the judgement. At this moment in time we are in Limbo. We have a cheap rent deal with little revenues - which could be better than a high rent with...

I think that is a problem and it is no wonder that there is and was distrust between the parties. Since TF and Joy are out of the Limelight at CCFC, things have got better. The new CEO will be a great help in improving CCFC's image with us and business partners imo - judging by his background (...