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A propros "speaks", has SISU clarified the Les Reid scoop? Will we be getting a stadium with 365 days revenues at the Butts? What will be the capacity and how much will we be paying the SISU Propco? Genuinely would like to know.....

Who denies it? I have always asked what are the proposed 365 revenues are and how much will we have to pay the SISU investors or Propco for them when the new stadium comes ( or rather should it ever come ). Asking these questions is probably one of the differences in our thinking. Some people...

People talk about facts on here. Obviously there not enough of them though, because you seem to like making up new 'facts'. I wasn't in charge of stadium negotiations so don't give me the 'credit' for fucking them up so much to get the result " no CCFC owned Ricoh". I want a stadium in Cov with...

I am getting confused now. Did she actually go to London? ML wanted her to, but didn't someone say she decided not to go? When did she go, if she did go? What was the result of the meeting?

How far are we with the "owned" stadium?

Do we know whether or not CRFC are worse off since Wasps arrived?

Ok, so they are not going to live happily ever after. Pity, but I am going to bed anyway.....thought reality would click in at some time. Night all...

But, it is strange that people are drooling about a stadium which they don't believe they are going to get. We are discussing the advantages and disadvantages of something that practically everyone wants, but thinks is not going to happen anyway. Like discussing about what Santa is bringing and...

They seem to get trodden on in this saga. So, I doubt if anyone has asked them up until now- but, I don't know either way.

It is for being a bishop in the House of Lords and being CofE helps if you want to get on in the Conservative party. I would prefer it to be a bar to getting near to having power to send an army into a religious hornet's nest.

Maybe both. But why are we discussing a nice happy end to the saga? Or at some time does the thread end "and they all lived happily ever after"? If so could someone post it at about 23:00 ( my bed time )?

Maybe we should just let the Butts fans enjoy their Christmas in the hope that Santa comes. He won't, but why ruin it for them? My kid loved waiting for Santa.

With me..... The taxman uses various methods of checking my turnover. The buzz words being "big data" and "data-analysis". The customs also use "big data" tests by checking all the imports in a certain branch - if a company has a lower import declaration of machinery than it's competitors, then...

Yes, my great grandfather drank in the Malt Shovel - I used to drop in there Generations later. My gran went to Spon Street school. So I have nothing against the area. But the stadium won't happen there.

Just a guess - I assume my Grand parents didn't travel much those days... But the place of birth is correct...

Oh sorry about that. Yes, the Butts is great. Pity the Malt Shovel is no longer there though. My mother was born on the site in 1930. there were houses then of course. A change to have a parent conceived on a stadium site- normally you have your dad's ashes there .

The Butts will not happen. There is not enough space for a decent sized stadium let alone a car park. There are railway lines on one side, the old tech which has some sort of preservation status, oap's home, residents, busy road already. It is just a decoy in some game between Tim and Wasps.

I don't believe that either....

Relgious people can and do make valuable contributions to debates, but they should not have power solely because they are religious. Secularism In the form of Separation of State from Religion is necessary in a multi religion and non believer population. Freedom of, and freedom from religion is...