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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    What do you want? Scrap benefits? Work or starve? Problem is that crime would increase. How do you choose who is genuine and who isn’t? We have low unemployment now, but there will be times of high unemployment which will mean more „robbing poor“, through not their own fault. Brexit has...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Does this apply to markets in Australia and America as well? Are you saying that post Brexit global Britain will not be about jobs for Brits, but about achieving benefits through production in other countries? Good for hedge funds and shareholders, but not for the forgotten people at home?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The border w Trump is a semi literate populist who just says and does things. No thought for the consequences. He won’t build a wall. It is too expensive. Mexico won’t pay if he does. So, he will repair and reinforce where necessary and then claim to have built a wall. I would be after...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Oh oh dear. Forcing people to work... Arbeitsdienst...has been done before. Not everyone can be made to do jobs they don’t want to. Not everyone is prepared to leave their family and friends to work elsewhere. Immigrants are. We live in a democracy and no one is going to tell the unemployed...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Daimler are worldwide and in the position to react to changes in markets. If profits drop in the UK they can concentrate on other markets. At least according to them: „Our goal is to continue our global growth in all the vehicle segments in which we are represented and in the services...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Well, the German car manufacturers have already said they want to build up alternative markets. If I was a share holder, I would like to see a return on my investment. In my event world, I may take part on an event at a loss or small profit in the short term because of strategic reasons, but at...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Or build up other markets with a higher margin. The bottom line is profit not the vanity of market share.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Will we have a deal after we leave, if we are not going to alter our „mechanisms“ on immigration?. Now India sends goods via us to the EU. The point of leaving the EU is to make great deals. Global Britain etc etc. If that isn’t going to happen, why are we doing this crap?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I think India is a growing economy with a growing middle class who have spending power. If we leave the EU we need new export markets. India knows this and already made clear that it won’t be a pushover in negotiations. We have the weaker hand.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    How? If they are allowed, under an agreement, so many visas, and the border force lets them in, but not people without a visa, how is that opposite to what they want? If they had absolute FOM and there was a strong border stopping illegal entry from other countries, that would be exactly in...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Is it more accurate, or are they looking at it from a different way? As in the above links the population is concentrated in different areas or cities. Large parts of Europe are not easily inhabitable or unattractive for jobs. You keep saying Germany is not so highly populated- which is true -...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I am not bothered either way. Main things are 1. it’s a good deal and 2. it is enforced correctly
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Didn’t say that. I said I agree with free movement in the EU and enforcement of any future immigration deals on the EU exterior border. With the case of illegal immigration we need a unified approach and we need a legal system for admitting some immigrants to the EU. FOM in the EU is...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    There are limits or borders, but they are difficult to enforce- especially in the Med. We need a fixed immigration policy and a single way of dealing with the expected massive attempts to get to Europe from Africa. Africa has a young and growing population, but not the economy to support it...
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    What is amazing is the amount of chocolates and sweets in general. All made from imported cocoa and sugars. Our diet seems pretty crap actually.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    British farmers say they need protecting. They have a powerful lobby in the UK. No way are we going to open the flood gates to food from the rest of the world when we leave the EU.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Strengthening borders means being able to apply trade deal immigration rules. It doesn’t mean stopping all immigration.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes, but we cannot make all rules to satisfy a right wing minority. In our local elections this week AFD got 5,5% state wide and 5,9% in the city. No way should we pander to them. But, I do agree that we should take on questions that are valid points. Such as strengthening EU borders and...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Why should I be incensed about the EU tightening it’s outside borders? I am all for free movement within the EU. Equal rights for all citizens of member states. An EU wide immigration policy is needed as are rules on the distribution of refugees covered by UN and Geneva convention rules. A...
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