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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You asked me and I told you. Where is the deflection? Anyway, who do you think is the better „player“ based on what we have been told and what we have seen: Davis or this guy!
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Well ask the government about that then.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Everyone says he is intelligent, hard working, effective, pays attention to detail and believes in the „firm“ he is working for. Even some of his critics. Now tell me how David Davis compares.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Nothing is being twisted on the remain side. You are back on your Juncker hit. Yes, there was controversy about his appointment. No one is doubting his ability and intelligence though. What was the final outcome of the review of his appointment?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    He is with some, and not with others.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    That is what the government said. It will be partly funded by tax and NI contributions. How much was not clear.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Seems to prove my point. The EU has someone good in the team. How does he compare with Davis, Raab, or Oli Robbins?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The Telegraph is a leave rag. As this article proves. It was once aimed at the more educated right wing readers, now it is using the same style as the gutter press. The only facts are slipped in under the radar. The guy is hard working, very intelligent, ambitious and supportive of the EU. Wish...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Oh good. What is not factually correct?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You don’t believe May because she is a remainer? Says it all really. I don’t know what will happen, but I agree with most people that we will probably take a hit at least short term. The government and commercial companies are making contingency plans based on that probability. It is not what...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    „It is believed“, „it is thought“. His grandfather was a lieutenant colonel in the Wehrmacht... and so on and so on... „the monster“... FFS. Don’t they do serious articles in the Telegraph any more? Could have been the Sun or Mail.. Just more whipping up emotions, although leave has won. Now...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    It will also be funded from higher taxes and NI contributions. We are still in the EU during the transition and will be paying our liabilities in 40 bn during the proposed time. So no Brexit Bonus there. Cameron said before the referendum that he would have to put in 10 bn to keep the NHS...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    What extra conditions? What must we do extra to get a Norway deal?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No, you are just making things up.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No one has the same deal as we have now as members. Norway has some of it including FOM - which is immigration. You said that EU migration is“just wrong“. They also pay in. You don’t want either of those. So no deal there. No one is forcing anything. If you want what we already have, you have...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The lie was in big letters written on a bus. The figure was too high as a total and didn’t tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth. In other words, a false statement. It has now been compounded by May claiming the NHS was getting a Brexit dividend, which is also a false statement and not...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes, I’m off to work now as meltdown commences...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I just did explain it. Barnier explained it yet again. You blame everything from traffic to a lack of cheap housing being built on a part of the deal we have. Now you say you like the existing deal. Either you like it = remain, or you don’t = leave. You want your cake and eat it, which is not on...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Our population is not naturally going up. The whole idea of selecting people won’t work in a country as big as ours with the various needs of the economy. It is just a fig leaf idea to say that we are not racist and we love immigrants really. Not all available jobs are particularly skilled, for...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Even Rees Mogg has said there will be more immigrants. Not at first because of what people voted for, but immigration will have to continue to sustain the economy. He suggested that it would be more from Asia as existing Asian migrant families would bring their relations over.
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