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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Why would countries want a referendum on such a complicated subject as membership of the EU? Do they have them for the UN? Or for NATO? Having seen the mess the UK is in, I think most would give it a miss. Will we have a referendum on any great trade deal Trump gives us? Gene manipulated food...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Of course there are guidelines... 17,4 million voted knowing what Brexit is. They just have now to put forward workable proposals to see it through. Ask any leaver if they knew what they were voting for and they will say yes. Can’t see the problem really. Where are BoJo, Farage, Banks, Wigmore...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    We tried to get some reforms such as making benefit tourism more difficult for which there was support. There was no support for ending FOM because it is one of the 4 freedoms and is not up for discussion. Reform covers a large area which could and should be reformed. The EU is still very young...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No. Your example of Semayr was not about breaking rules. The decision was upheld. They will stop it happening again.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Somebody may have fiddled their election expenses ( eg UKIP use of EU funds), but this is no comparison to the 4 freedoms. You know this. The whole system is rule based and relies on 28 countries sticking to the rules. Yes, some break some rules, but no one is breaking the 4 freedoms. No way...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Or they might just get on with their own lives and be not really bothered about the fate of the UK. Most have seen the problems caused by Brexit and prefer to stay in and reform the EU. That is even Bannon’s strategy.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Are you really classifying Brexit with a double promotion in the EU commission? Brexit is a country leaving the biggest trading bloc in the world and is absolutely no comparison with political intrigues in the EU. Do you think the EU should break their rules for a country that is leaving based...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I said it shouldn’t have happened and that reform was necessary. You say that they have agreed it should never happen again and are taking measures to prevent it happening again. Exactly what I said I wanted to happen. What do I have to admit to?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    We trade with 27 EU countries and all those who have some form of trade agreements with the EU. We trade with 27 other countries on WTO basis. That is a very large portion of the world. Our net contribution is 10bn. The Germans have budgeted in 3,5bn towards any loss of Brexit contributions as...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Have I disputed his history? No. Or his grandfather‘s? No. Am I bothered about his grandfather? No. Do I think the appointment was out of order? Yes, but it has been upheld. Now, back to the real problem... where are the workable proposals?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    We want to leave. We want a future trading relationship. We are not having our cake and eating it. Simple really. Put the workable proposals on the table and we are all happy.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Salmayr has worked his way up without the Brexit media noticing him... until now... we are supposed to get an agreement by October.. up until now we don’t have a workable proposal to put on teacher‘s desk. Not done our homework under Davis. Now it’s teacher that is evil because he is going to...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I have family in Ireland and they are dreading this, having children and their partners in the North. They never went to the North before the GFA. Having this put on the line because of the ignorance of UK voters is a joke. And, yes I will also agree that the border problems did not exist before...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes, if she can get a hard border and blame it on the EU or WTO she will be over the moon. Even though she denies that she wants a hard border. The enclave will last a little longer. But, that won’t happen, there won’t be a hard border and she will be left with egg on her face for not...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Which Salmayr are you talking about? The one who is dead and has nothing to do with the present EU? Are you on about his iceberg? I don’t get the relevance to us leaving the EU.. The grandfather certainly had an interesting CV, but it irrelevant to the present. It would be different if he had...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    When was Selmayr appointed? And why are talking about how bad he is now? Let’s see....,,,, oh, I know. We are up sxxt creek without a paddle. Now the EU is being blamed for that. The UK has yet to find a workable solution to be able to deal with the rest of the world and still get the benefits...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Only by your false deduction.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Frothing at the mouth now? About someone getting appointed to a top job in an organisation that the UK will shortly not be in. Whilst ignoring the failures of appointments in the UK.... such as the least diplomatic person in public as foreign minister and playing down the appointment of thick as...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yeah yeah
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Anyway you asked me about Katie Howie being a looper so I posted what’s going on in her constituency. Other people think she is a bit weird amongst other things.
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