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Mate, seriously, you're making the claim. You prove it. Who has caught who out here, really?

Apart from the fact that technically they're not, where does it say in law that the council can't invest in something that they part-own? If that was the case then Ricoh doesn't even get built. Regardless, again, show me one single case that backs up your contention.

I've looked through a few here. They're absolutely nothing to do with what we're talking about. Be honest, there's not a single example of a JR being used in the way that you've outlined is there? Not one. Sorry to catch you out, but with regard to JRs you're going on entirely on opinion...

I'm afraid most of that seems to relate to stuff coming in the future. Could you be bothered to read a little further, I think the Local Government Act 2003, Section 12 (which is I believe is still in force) might inform you further: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/26/section/12...

Oh aye, the council tried to screw us up by bailing the club out when they had no home. Personally, I think the true whiners are people who cry that a business that has racked up £60m of debts should be rewarded by being given the Arena (thus screwing over both Council taxpayers and The Higgs...

I've got to get on, but I think it's a bit more subtle than that. I think it's more along the lines that a third party, Otium, has negotiated with NTFC to offer CCFC Ltd a place to play, when both of those parties know that CCFC Ltd already has a contract for a place to play. In essence an...

We've got a ground to play in mate, thanks. And at least at the moment, a legal obligation to play in it. And you're getting the cart before the horse - if your money grabbing chairman doesn't get involved then the FL don't have any decision to make. We're not bullying you - your club's...

For what it's worth, I think this court action might be on the grounds of "tortious interference". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tortious_interference In essence, ACL has a contract with CCFC Ltd to play at the arena. NTFC are aware of that contract but interfere and CCFC Ltd break the...

As it goes, you can sue the FL. Stevenage did. They lost, but what the judge said was quite telling. http://www.5rb.com/case/Stevenage-Borough-FC-v-The-Football-League As I read it, I think that you would need to argue that the FL rules were arbitrary or capricious, or that they have been...

We don't agree on everything torchy, but I'm right with you on this. If ACL did to another club (football or rugby), what Cardoza has done to us, then they would deserve our utter disdain (imho). Just because you can make a few quid out of something doesn't make it right.

Taking a return isn't the same as offering a loan. The deal is to play for free, with money coming back to SISU. In what way is that a worse outcome for SISU than moving to Northampton, except that it prevents SISU distressing ACL? If you listen to PWKH of the Higgs trust, he says that SISU...

Interesting again, I'd judge them by their results, not their qualifications (even if we knew what they were, which we don't). And their results here, have been terrible from a financial standpoint, no? They clearly had no genuine intention of buying half of the Ricoh, and their plans for...

I take your point, but don't mistake nasty for smart. I think their well started to run dry some time ago, around the time of the Fox & Dann sales, and ever since then they've been dribbling the bare minimum into the club, leaving us where we are now. And I honestly think Fisher should be...

How is it a loan. The offer is to play for free, and returns money to SISU. If they can afford it then why don't they pay? About as redundant as your 'who's the most pissed off' measure. I don't think they're doing it on their terms at all. They were pushed into admin, and seemingly...

I'm speculating too - but I think there would have been a far bigger outcry if they let SISU distress ACL into handing the Arena over for peanuts. However if I was the director of a company that had managed to blow £30-60m of my investors' funds, alienated the vast majority of my remaining...

Lord what a mess. I think the embargo is under the control of the FL, a bit like the GS. In essence it doesn't matter if CCFC Holdings has signed off accounts or not, the FL won't let us sign players at the moment. (Unless SISU pull another fast one... well yeah, I know it's in your rules...

Last I saw, Hoffman had a way of allowing SISU to stay at the Ricoh rent-free. That looks like 'something to offer' to me. I would've thought anyone with a brain would be pissed off by recent events. If you're determining victory by smugness quotient, then Fisher's a nailed on winner...

What a strange interpretation on all counts. Since when was reconciliation purely in the purview of the victor? I've always considered it required intelligent action from all aggrieved parties. However I note you seem to delight in the idea that SISU have 'won'. So what exactly have they...

I don't see where I implied that Hoffman was a winner in this. The reason for re-engaging is that it might offer a possible solution, whereas at the moment everyone loses. You make it sound like an irreconcilable divorce. That could be, but it's not too late to start behaving like grown ups.