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Southampton did and look at them.

To be fair Robins never got the shit Lampard gets just because of his high profile. He handles it well but he's only human and is going to react occasionally. I'm all for it, should get a few bucket rattlers outside the turnstiles boxing day to get a Franks Fine Fund together.

The figures I've quoted are from transfer market and are net Spends, I appreciate with all these type of sites you can't take the figures as gospel but they give you a good idea. And your last line is exactly my point, 'if you're run well'. Run well clubs aren't clubs who struggle in the...

Fulham had been out of the PL almost as long as us, it was Brentfords first time. And I've got Leicesters spend wrong, it was 91 mil.

They may be in the Europa league, but they sacked the man who got them there because their ego maniac owner stormed on to the pitch throwing his weight about, no thanks, not for me. I agree about becoming a yo yo club. It would be another huge step forward, but you still have to get it right...

If we don't spend 2 billion in the summer to get there is there any point in going up?!

I appreciate there is an inflation adjustment needed here but Brentford 1st season back net spend 38 mil. Fulham 1st season back in Prem, net spend 73 mil. Leicester and Southampton last season, 81 and 123 mil respectively.

And there are plenty who've spent that much and still got relegated, there are those that have spent less and thrived. Canny recruitment and a management and coaching team with a decent game plan can go a long way. And Forest are not a good model to follow, sacked their most succesful...

No surprise. Worth every penny of the incoming fine to see their support losing their heads to be honest, fucking idiots.

And what makes you think 100 mil is the magic number that guarantees staying up? Wolves squad, who are stinking the place out at the moment, is valued at 370 mil according to transfer market. Even spending 100 mil doesn't get our squad to that value. And again, you are trying to put an...

Again, it's not the spend, it's having a contingency in place for relegation. But the more you spend the more your wage bill rises, can we service that wage bill in the Championship if the worse happens is the question?

Where have I said we don't need to spend money?

The collapse of ITV Digital didn't hit us more than anything. The banks, specifically the CO-OP deciding to stop bank rolling badly run football clubs hit us harder, the collapse of ITV Digital just compounded it. But it wouldn't have mattered anywheee near as much if we'd had our finances in...

No, but it lead to years of misery for us supporters. I don't think we'll see that scenario again, (the fact we now own the CBS should ensure that), but never say never, which is why I'm guarded against thinking one promotion to the PL means we can start spending like its going out of fashion again.

I'd imagine so, but I think there's quite a lot of players, if they're of proven quality, who won't sign up to a wage drop clause, that's where the club have to hold their ground and say no deal then.

Again, I'm not disputing that, the initial outlay isn't the problem, but that comes with a huge wage bill that can become unsustainable in the event of relegation. That has to be guarded against.

Yeah, that deal collapsing just compounded everything.

It was a chain of events, we wouldn't have needed them to stop us going into admin when they first arrived if we hadn't overspent.

Well we clearly did overspend, and that lead to us losing the ground that was supposed to be ours and the 'white knights' of sisu coming to our 'rescue'.

What?!