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  1. chiefdave

    The low down on ARVO

    How? With Grendel's example it would be £1m a year for the next 250 years so £250m, for which we would get no revenue access. In what way is that better than building a new stadium where we get access to all revenues? It's all hypothetical of course but just shows again that all scenarios need...
  2. chiefdave

    The low down on ARVO

    I wasn't seriously suggesting we mount a campaign, more illustrating the fact that if our presence, at a rent of £100K, was essential to their plans it wouldn't take much to tip them over the edge.
  3. chiefdave

    The low down on ARVO

    There's not really a response that can be made to that as what you are saying is you would prefer to pay more for less!
  4. chiefdave

    The low down on ARVO

    You don't know that, it's impossible for anyone to know that. In your suggestion we would pay £12m for a 50% stake in a company with a debt of £14m that, from their last account, is struggling to make a profit. What you don't know is the cost of a new stadium and how the prop co would be set...
  5. chiefdave

    The low down on ARVO

    That's not having it both ways, that's you taking one point (Wasps won't sell) and then making an assumption that they need us to stay. Wasps have already stated their business plan does not require CCFC to stay at the Ricoh. While I'm sure they would like us to stay is £100K a season plus F&B...
  6. chiefdave

    The low down on ARVO

    As an absolute minimum you'd be looking at £6m (the price Wasps paid) to take a 50% stake in a company with a £14m debt. However it is highly unlikely they would sell at that price and would undoubtedly want a decent profit. At what point does that become an unviable option against a new...
  7. chiefdave

    The low down on ARVO

    If they wanted shared ownership wouldn't they have just let our bid for Higgs share go unchallenged instead of making a bid for it themselves? As they purchased that share you would have to assume that in the unlikely event they would sell it to us they would want more than they paid so we'd be...
  8. chiefdave

    The low down on ARVO

    Unless they seriously think Fisher is going to build the new stadium and it will be in a location and with facilities to rival the Ricoh there is absolutely no incentive for them to give us increased access to revenues.I f anything they have the opportunity to charge us more for less. If they...
  9. chiefdave

    The low down on ARVO

    This has become one of those things that is now stated repeatedly as fact on here but where has it been confirmed? Is it really 50% of all revenues, I thought all the revenue went to IEC not ACL. Or is it 50% of profit. If it's 50% of profit is it 50% of the profit from IEC or 50% of the % ACL...
  10. chiefdave

    The low down on ARVO

    We are desperate. And now owning the Ricoh is off the table a new stadium saving our future is pretty much the only tiny bit of hope we have left. If staying at the Ricoh is our best option then the best we can hope for is being a team equitable to the likes of Yeovil, for whom success is an...
  11. chiefdave

    The low down on ARVO

    well that's the million dollar question and if I knew the answers to those sort of questions I'd be doing it myself and have enough money spare to buy the club and build the ground. By no stretch of the imagination would it be easy, and given SISU's track record they are the last people you...
  12. chiefdave

    The low down on ARVO

    Lets face it Ranson managed to persuade SISU we were worth investing in! There would most likely be no mention of SISU or much of a mention of CCFC in any prospectus to raise funds, it would be all about an event facility and whatever else was incorporated into the site. Make it look attractive...
  13. chiefdave

    The low down on ARVO

    Why does it have to be a conference facilities in any new stadium? Pretty much anything could be incorporated, if they find something for which there is a demand it would be a success and there's no reason (other than who would be running it!) it couldn't be more successful than ACL.
  14. chiefdave

    The low down on ARVO

    It was an example for Ron who said he wouldn't back a stadium that put us in debt, purely to show that it doesn't mean any plan should be disregarded. There are no figures available hence the need for proper business plans and forecasts. The point I was making was that having a debt, whoever it...
  15. chiefdave

    The low down on ARVO

    Again it depends on the figures. Paying SISU, or anyone else for that matter, say £1m a year but getting access to £5m in revenue is better than paying Wasps £100K a year and getting £1m in revenue.
  16. chiefdave

    ***Relegation Thread***

    Is he even playing, he's been out injured hasn't he?
  17. chiefdave

    The low down on ARVO

    I'd don't think she'd class building a stadium as putting money into the club, more putting money into a stadium. The hope would be that the stadium could make money and add value to the club should they be sold as a package.
  18. chiefdave

    Would you pay £64 to watch City?

    Exactly right. You'd struggle to get a ticket for Arsenal, if anything they'll put the prices up not down. The problem will be if that type of fan stops going will there be other fans to replace them. The bubble has to burst at some point doesn't it?
  19. chiefdave

    Blaze

    Is it Face Off tonight? Always forget that's on, shame they don't put it up as a podcast like a lot of other BBC local stations do with sports programs. Read elsewhere they've made him a big money offer, not sure what that would be in UK hockey or how it would compare to what he can expect to...
  20. chiefdave

    The low down on ARVO

    Depends on the finance model and the net figures, if a new stadium leaves them better off every year then it would be a justification for building it. Hence why we need to see comparative projections for a new stadium and staying at the Ricoh.
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