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  1. skybluetony176

    USSR invades Ukraine.

    Hey Sick Boy, do a forum search using Yemen as your search word. For the benefit of doubt you’ll see me do nothing other than condemning the sales of arms to Saudi Arabia on several different threads. There is another poster though who justifies it using excuses like “it secures British jobs”...
  2. skybluetony176

    USSR invades Ukraine.

    I’m outraged. You assumed I wasn’t in an attempted gotcha. I’ve pointed this out to you already.
  3. skybluetony176

    USSR invades Ukraine.

    1) That isn’t an actual point, it’s a pipe dream. There is zero prospect of having a negotiated piece with Putin. It’s for the birds. It didn’t work in 2014 when he annexed Crimea it won’t work again. What is it they say about doing the same things expecting different results? 2) I’m not...
  4. skybluetony176

    USSR invades Ukraine.

    You can quite easily accuse the US and UK governments of hypocrisy for their stances on Ukraine and Saudi Arabia and I think everyone here would agree with you. I certainly would and I’ve not seen anyone else say anything to suggest they wouldn’t either. But that’s not what you’re doing. You’re...
  5. skybluetony176

    USSR invades Ukraine.

    Russia clearly worried about Crimea enough that its considering moving its fleet to a port in one of the other countries it’s illegally annexed https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-67017375 How many countries has the guy we’re meant to believe is capable of being negotiated with now...
  6. skybluetony176

    USSR invades Ukraine.

    Let’s negotiate with this guy https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/67018505
  7. skybluetony176

    USSR invades Ukraine.

    “For one thing, much of it rests on the presumption that Putin would have acquiesced to a genuinely neutral Ukraine as opposed to one that marched in lockstep with Russia’s interests. Given that Putin declared Ukraine an “inalienable part” of Russia’s “spiritual space” when justifying his...
  8. skybluetony176

    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    Just clocked that there’s a by-election in Scotland today. Labour and SNP vying for the win. Starmer will be like a dog with 2 dicks if the win that ahead of the Labour Party conference.
  9. skybluetony176

    USSR invades Ukraine.

    Isn’t the only countries strategy that counts here is Ukraines strategy of not bending to Russia? Any other countries strategy that matters is a response to Ukraines strategy. Also Russia has always had the same strategy as the West. Disruption and interference. Maybe the US should make a fresh...
  10. skybluetony176

    USSR invades Ukraine.

    I agreed with something Pritti Patel said the other day.
  11. skybluetony176

    USSR invades Ukraine.

    Where has this childish mentality come from that if you agree with an individual, organisation or government’s stance on one issue you must automatically agree with them on everything. 6th form debating gets thrown around a lot but this is a primary school mentality. It is possible to agree with...
  12. skybluetony176

    USSR invades Ukraine.

    Ahh. The old Ukraine can’t operate its sovereign right to join NATO with the backing of its population because it might upset Putin argument. Fact is if Putin was a better neighbour it’s neighbours who managed to stay neutral all though the highs and lows of the Cold War wouldn’t now be...
  13. skybluetony176

    USSR invades Ukraine.

    I struggle to have sympathy with Assange if I’m being honest. He seemed complicit in orchestrating that entire scenario himself because when he did finally face justice the charges were dropped due to a lack of evidence. Plus there’s something wrong with anyone who does a dirty protest...
  14. skybluetony176

    USSR invades Ukraine.

    And a guy who’s repeatedly said Russias victory was assured in the next 24 hours.
  15. skybluetony176

    USSR invades Ukraine.

    You seem unbelievably inept on Ukrainian history so I’ll give you the short version. In 2014 a Russian stooge Yanukovych refused to sign the Ukraine-EU association agreement that he had been voted in on the understanding that he would sign which had been over a decade in the making and pursued...
  16. skybluetony176

    USSR invades Ukraine.

    Ahh. The old Ukraine isn’t allowed the sovereignty to democratically move closer to one of its neighbours in case it upsets a mentalist in Russia argument. It’s always especially ironic when its brexiteers who trot out that excuse. Why is one company allowed the sovereignty to move away from...
  17. skybluetony176

    USSR invades Ukraine.

    I would think that Putin sees anyone suggesting that he can be negotiated with as a Russian victory. The Wests impotence dealing with him by repeatedly giving him an inch, he takes a mile, we give him another inch, he takes another mile rinse repeat rinse repeat etc etc clearly hasn’t worked...
  18. skybluetony176

    USSR invades Ukraine.

    You haven’t been paying enough attention then because whenever Saudi Arabia comes up in conversation on this forum, any thread, I’ve always consistently expressed the same opinion. We shouldn’t be supplying them arms.
  19. skybluetony176

    USSR invades Ukraine.

    There is no good type of Nazi, as the Conservative Party Conference is aptly demonstrating. You can’t link everyone’s opinion and standards in the UK with theirs. Same as you can’t Ukrainians with one group of people in Ukraine. I don’t even believe that all Russians are aligned with Putin, I...
  20. skybluetony176

    USSR invades Ukraine.

    I wasn’t and as you didn’t mention Saudi Arabia in your reply to my post I don’t know what else you were expecting me to think. Although I suspect that our opinions on Saudi Arabia and should we be supplying them with military support are probably identical. I’m a solid no. However you can’t...
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