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The post in this thread about bending over and taking it from suits is an example. It doesn't stand up to any kind of scrutiny, same as when people break out quotes they found about evil and war, call everyone a Sisu apologist, ACL bumlicker or usual suspect or demand other people do more else...

Changing your mind or having near enough any view is fine, it's the whole 'if you don't agree with me you're the problem and it's your fault' kind of thing infesting this place that drags it down.

Does Indiegogo have some kind of payment protection or is it only the word of this group and their Twitter account that you'd get your money back? I mean, they do sprinkle words like 'entrepreneur' and 'promise' around but you'd hope they'd offer a little more than that. From the two links...

If you're going to put (wrong) words in my mouth, at least have the conviction to leave out 'probably', come on. Incidentally, I don't have a sliding scale on who has the most balls because both that and talk of being bent over or spineless or whatever the current buzzwords are is meaningless...

This has got right in the way of my Kickstarter campaign to take over the football club. I'd promised good times also (silver and gold donations also getting sunshine and moonlight)

He remarked, whilst lacking the 'balls' to stick with a team and being seduced by the suits behind a new one.

A proper indoor one should have much less bounce to it, I've played with the kind of ball you describe and it does completely ruin the game.

Wait until they're doing well and get on board? Jesus.

He can't be if he's saying stuff we don't want to hear!!!

Haven't you already ascertained that his day job is SECRET SISU AGENT SPY?

Indoor football's ace, but you need to make sure you're playing with the heavier ball. Playing with an outdoor ball and it's a nightmare.

I see someone's working for Heinz.

I agree, Cody McDonald would fit comfortably in a list of useless strikers. (not Maguire though, he was ace for those 15 minutes he played)

An avalanche of doubt there.

Whatever happens at the start of next season it's likely to be with enough of a personnel difference from the start of this one that you won't really be able to draw much conclusion.

If you don't know what Waggot does, surely there's no reason to be suspicious of him either? Now, let's have no more curiosity about this bizarre cover-up.

I've probably got more friends than you've got cows. How many cows have you got? Yeah, I've got a hundred and four friends.

Richard Wood went a long time ago, silly billies!

It was obvious that talking about politics and finance instead of football was horrendous, but we can now cite proof that there's something even worse than that, talking endlessly about each other. I can't wait to see what new depths are plunged here!

You're jumping on a minor complaint and pulling holes in it here.