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Your calculation is surely way out, but I still get your point.

I wasn't using it in the way you imply, and in no way was I suggesting that the club shouldn't have invested in seating because clearly it was obligatory. I was simply responding to the notion that fans who always preferred to stand, but had that choice taken away from for decades because of...

True, but still spent.

I love these Italian tactical terms.

I get what you are saying Oakey, and I respect it. But remember that for many decades, the life and soul of football in this country was the thousands of fans standing on the terraces. In reaction to the safety and hooligan issues in the 70s and 80s, billions have been spent by clubs up and down...

Not trying to be obstructive, but apart from various other issues people have mentioned, you've got the away section where the new club shop is.

That does sound simpler than moving the away fans, as long as City fans can be given regular/permanent access to ~half of the South Stand, with just the minimum required away capacity and only a narrow no man’s land. No more empty blocks in a prime part of the stadium. We keep hearing that the...

Mixed signals on this thread. Can we expect some kind of definite proposal from the club soon, as the basis for consultations, or are they just asking people to throw ideas around?

The thing is, Fadz is still fantastic. Age is just a number, and as long as he's good enough he's young enough.

Who has said they are looking to make 10-13 available for home fans? Is that stated in the consultation or are you guessing? Pete's OP just refers to safe standing in 13-16.

Talented attacking player divides opinion shock. I love watching the guy play. Others are welcome to bemoan the fact that he can’t be everywhere at once.

He was dancing past players around the edge of their box around the 80th minute.

It's a breakaway move almost at the end of the game. Bidwell was fresh having not been on long, and no doubt keen to impress is around the penalty spot (luckily the move didn't break down or I'm sure you would have panned him for naive positioning if they went down the other end and scored)...

I was referring to post No. 10, where it was stated that consultations are happening about putting away fans in blocks 23-27.

You think he was in a foot race with Godden?

I only said it was a potential issue. Hopefully something could be done as you suggest.

Why would they start a consultation on something if they know it can't be done?

Yes, the memorial garden is a potential issue if that corner becomes the away section.

Keeping Milan Tatsuhiro van Wisdom up your sleeve?

Been on the margaritas this afternoon shmmeee?