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Possibly but I’m with Hill in this, most of the breaking of rules happens after 11/midnight. I don’t see everyone starting earlier and getting in the same state. This in conjunction with stricter rules implemented at bars/pubs (got to be enforced), and stopping people all piling back round...

Yeah, you do have to wonder ! I also have to wonder that if in most countries only 40% are downloading the apps and you need 80% for them to be effective, why we’ve bothered with one at all anyway

Haha, like it ! think this is all tied to your phone though, which has app on. Like everything probably open to abuse but that’s where the public have to take some responsibility in all this

I guess it’s because it’s very hard to be 100% sure where someone’s caught it. They’ll have a very good idea though. The surveillance report indicates the locations for the track and trace but not then who tested positive (that step would be useful and surely not difficult to do)

100%. Gone a bit quieter on the app but hoping it will be part of Johnson’s misery announcement later in the week. Read it has a QR scanner you scan when you go into certain locations which should mean more useful data, highlight hot spots etc.

It is sitting on the middle ground and ends up pleasing nobody (some want total freedom and fuck everyone else, others want a full blown lockdown) but other than the lack of coherent messaging some of the staged measures are sensible. Not sure people are following (most just ignoring) which is...

I’d just googled and seen that hospital fatality rate was down to 1.5% in June (maybe misunderstood though - Declining death rate from COVID-19 in hospitals in England - CEBM) Either way i know that there have been significant treatment improvements in recent months so fingers crossed it’s...

The interesting thing is the 200 deaths per day. I need to review the info and see what they think will be hospital admissions. 50k cases per day is what will grab the headlines As alluded to on here, it’s ground work for Johnson announcing further restrictions this week

Exactly and as I say, I would take what others are doing well and replicate but comparing us to South Korea is crazy Ps the Dido/Hancock double act deserves plenty of shit so won’t be defending

Yeah, Sweden only gets talked about when things are looking shit there. They will probably have another spike at some point and then it will be all you hear about. As I’ve said before though country comparisons are tricky:misleading. I think Sweden’s rate is probably easier to control due to...

Latest I can find... 1081 hospitalised as at 17/9 138 on ventilators as at 18/9

Hes a c**t. Do your job Hancock and we’ll do ours !

Really interesting article Dave. The viral load discussion has been going on for a while now and I’m no scientist but it seems to make logical sense ‘And even if some viral particles do get through, the viral dose will still be much smaller, so the person will be less likely to get seriously...

Wondered what you were talking about for a minute SBD

Think he’d possibly be more useful from the bench. Quite like him as a player but not quite sure of him with Ohare. Be interested to see Shipley further up and Sheaf/Kelly alongside Hamer

Great win last night. Really had to hang in there first half (and probably didn’t deserve to be level at HT). Having said that for all QPRs possession (they knocked it about well first half) we kept them at a distance. Second half was impressive, great character and a couple of little bits of...

I think there is a plan NW, when there’s a local spike, try staged measures to get it down, with schools last on list. whether they (ministers/top civil servants) have the tools (trace and track app sorted ? and testing capacity ?) skills, and intellect to deliver this I very much doubt !

Either way it’s certainly not going to be hugely different. As I’ve said I think our number will increase again as last few days tests have picked up. Doesn’t mean that this mess doesn’t need sorting out as capacity isn’t obviously enough for what we need (whatever other countries failings are)...

Fair point, I’m just saying that during the original lockdown most people obeyed the not meeting/mixing households rule, I don’t see it happening again

I’m guessing that people will still meet up NW. I’ve got a fair few intelligent(ish) mates and people are done. They will still wear masks, wash hands etc but I don’t think many/any would adhere fully to another full lockdown lockdown measures I know some on here prefer if I didn’t add...