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  1. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    Phrases from your childhood/ teenage years you don’t hear anymore

    Last time I heard that was in a Tim Minchin song about plastic bags.
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    Greta Thunberg / Climate Change Summit

    With the first paragraph the worst case scenario for the economists/capitalists would be spending lots of money on something that isn't (in their eyes) a pressing issue. The money is of greater importance to them than any other benefits, inc. fewer deaths. Plus if you wanted to take a slightly...
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    Greta Thunberg / Climate Change Summit

    It does indeed, but how do you get to do that at that age without help. I'm sure there's loads of kids (even adults) who'd love to be able to discuss their thoughts and ideas at summits with world leaders. They write to people, get involved in campaigning and interest groups. Just get ignored or...
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    Greta Thunberg / Climate Change Summit

    The point I'm making is that both are completely fixated on one issue and so everything else becomes almost meaningless unless it works towards that main aim. With her likely to become even more ensconced in the climate change movement it's going to become like an echo chamber reinforcing her...
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    Greta Thunberg / Climate Change Summit

    That does also highlight her childish naivety on the issue. When I was young I wondered why some things weren't being done that seemed obvious, but it was because I didn't understand all the things related to it that would be affected. For example if I'd asked my mum to not drive the car to...
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    Greta Thunberg / Climate Change Summit

    There are a lot of insect species struggling but there are some that are having booms in population due to more favourable conditions. They can also be 'farmed' much more quickly due to a shorter life cycle and in less space than livestock, although obviously the massive increase in demand would...
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    Greta Thunberg / Climate Change Summit

    I've heard of the film and have seen some of the things you mention in documentaries etc. I think QI did the fact about the amount of water needed for a hamburger. But as I say that change will have to be gradual - we can't just put every single dairy and meat producer and their associated...
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    Greta Thunberg / Climate Change Summit

    The decision will ultimately be due to economic, not environmental reasons. It's why I can't understand why we've not gone the same route. It's an industry with long-term sustainability and provides us with energy independence so we're not reliant on others. But instead we continue to go with...
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    Greta Thunberg / Climate Change Summit

    Short term definitely not. Longer term, who knows? There are definitely more people becoming vegetarian/vegan or having meat free days. I think insects may become a stepping stone over time. It's one of my worst traits but I've reduced the amount of met I eat but my energy levels drop...
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    Greta Thunberg / Climate Change Summit

    Just because she understands climate change doesn't mean she has a more rounded understanding of other related issues, such as the economic, or even other school subjects which she maybe missing out on through being this spokesperson. Sometimes you can see that she is just a young child because...
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    Greta Thunberg / Climate Change Summit

    Under Trump expect the US emissions to rise sharply again. Head of the EPA is a climate change denier, lots of environmental protections have been removed. They've even banned California from setting itself more stringent emissions targets than the federal ones. How you end up banning somewhere...
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    Greta Thunberg / Climate Change Summit

    I'm not claiming you're denying climate change. I was pointing out that the 'natural' factors lead to change on a much longer timeframe - thousands or tens of thousands of years, sometimes longer but since industrialisation we've managed to change that to hundreds or years, and getting smaller...
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    Greta Thunberg / Climate Change Summit

    If we genuinely want to change things there is only one way we can do it and that's to make it so that capitalists will make more money from renewable energy and recyclable materials than fossil fuels etc. so they divest their interests into renewable. It's a sad indictment of our species but...
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    Greta Thunberg / Climate Change Summit

    You do understand the issue is about the rate of change don't you? No-one has said that the climate hasn't changed over the history of the planet for various reasons, but there is no evidence taken from core samples etc that suggest the climate has ever changed as quickly as this unless it can...
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    Greta Thunberg / Climate Change Summit

    I'm not trying to discredit a little girl. I agree with her that something needs to be done and she's highlighting the issue very well. But the answer isn't going to come from people going around talking about it, regardless of age. It'll come from providing genuine answers and alternatives to...
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    Greta Thunberg / Climate Change Summit

    Her parents could've made her get her education first rather than sailing round the world. But my suspicion is they've encouraged this route rather than education. Rather than letting her enjoy growing up in a 'normal' manner they seem to have been drumming into her from an early age how bad...
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    Greta Thunberg / Climate Change Summit

    She must be very high-functioning then. Can't believe any parent would think "we've got an autistic child so clearly the best thing to do is put her in the global media spotlight and giving presentations and speeches around the world to thousands of people and also putting her in the firing line...
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    Greta Thunberg / Climate Change Summit

    Not sure if you mean climate change in general or this thread. Problem with climate change in general is that those who are the worst polluters deny it, arguably not due to the science but because they don't want to lose the economic 'advantage' and the companies involved have a great deal of...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Politics relies heavily on spin and leaking. If something will give you leverage over your opponent it will in some way find its way out, even if just in rumours. David Davis spent months saying how much preparation had been done and we were well on the way to getting a deal sorted, he just...
  20. Sky_Blue_Dreamer

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    But if Alexander or his team did have an alternative they genuinely believed in why would he keep it secret? Wouldn't he want the attention and show he's trying. It also makes him look better as it makes the EU negotiators look like they're obstructing the process. OR the EU have received...
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