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Who exactly are you to judge me?

Where have I claimed I didn't say it?

You show me where I have said the loan to ACL was state aid. Resorting to name calling just makes you look like a moron of the highest order.

OK your on the wind up so we'll leave it here I think. One last time and maybe it will sink in. Public money lent to public body - Can't be state aid. Public money lent to private company - Can be state aid, but not automatically. The CCC loan to acl was proven in court to not be...

Pathetic.

No it was about 6 months before. The original £1.3m rent agreement was still in place at the time of the loan.

You mean where I say it can only be state aid if the loan is to a private company? Considering the time it must have taken for you to find that its pretty disappointing. Its a bit like RFC's smoking gun.

But at the point the loan was made ACL was very profitable, and its then that matters. What happened after January 2013 is irrelevant.

Please stop making up lies about what I have said. I would also stop making allegations that have proven to be false in court if I were you.

The club should have gone into administration in 2003. Instead they ran to the council begging for the deal that followed, all the while whipping up the local media and fans into pressuring the council to accept the deal. If anyone was bent over a barrel it was CCC. CCC were wrong to bow to...

Sisu winning wont do the club any good now. Wasps have the Ricoh and that is that. Best get used to it.

Because recent revelations have nothing to do with the JR. Shame your putting your hatred of the council ahead of what's good for the club isn't it?

Not technically true. They did get some revenue. Also I never knew that renting something meant you got ownership of it after an unspecified amount of time. When do expect Gallagher Developments to hand over the deeds to the club shop?

Better man than me will have to answer that. I was just quoting a bit from the JR. The reason neither Sisu nor CCC could get a deal on the YB mortgage was because they wanted and expected full payment.

With regard to the first bit (it being a separate loan), that is something that would be worth knowing more about. But I still stand by my point in that a new loan would have nothing to do with the original loan, or the JR. Only a new JR could look into that. As for CCC knowing about a change...

But it wasn't state aid was it? That has been proven.

Yorkshire Bank refused to write off any of ACL's debt as YB believed ACL was in a position to meet its obligations.

Technically CCC own the Ricoh, ACL/Wasps are just the operators.

Sorry but the law doesn't work like that. The contract was between CCC and ACL. That contract still exists, ownership of ACL is irrelevant to that. The only time ownership of ACL comes into this is when discussing CCC's motive for offering the loan, which was based on the circumstances of...

Did I say on every occasion? Your not stupid so I don't know why your playing dumb on this, but I will humour you and make it clear. Public funds going to a public body - Cannot be considered state aid Public funds going to a private body - Under some circumstances (rare) can be considered...