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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The majority don’t want May‘s deal , or no deal, or Norway, or Canada+. This isn’t a yes/no issue, which is why we are where we are. We should never have been given the simple question: leave or remain. We are a parliamentary democracy with a sovereign parliament. We don’t usually do referenda...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes, but unfortunately not all leavers would accept Norway. Many remainers would, if it meant we could move on. Me and my ilk would like a second referendum, but would only be happy if there was a majority decision,say, of 60% plus. Either way actually. What do people like me gain if it is...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Report just out saying the same thing: North hit hardest by austerity, according to study
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I have never mentioned how well or not my pub is doing. You said I was sneering at pub goers. I had to answer that crap. Astute mentioned about people moving in and complaining about the noise from existing properties and I agreed with him and gave my example and mentioned an event in my pub ...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Coming from you that takes the biscuit. That’s actually what people do in a debate. I back my view up with facts or opinions based on facts. If you just come on and say blah blah blah and some crap, then that is not trying to have a debate.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I am not trying to convince you of anything. I am not ranting and raving. I am just having a conversation or stating a point of view on a forum. Have the pubs closed or did you leave early?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Negotiations and agreements - Trade - European Commission
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    We have trade agreements all over the world through the EU. We lose these when we leave.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Farage has resigned from UKIP because of Tommy Robinson.... Next stop Tories?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I would prefer a landslide remain at some point, but recognise the position the UK is in at this moment in time. The desired benefit of a second vote, which I hope we have, is it if were to give a clear majority either way. Unfortunately, unless something happens soon, or a leading figure takes...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I didn't watch the questions. Had to work.... but I'll check that out. Morons is obviously a bit over the top, but he proved in the lecture, through his figures and graphs, why the people would go for the BS from the likes of populists who simplify everything to the lowest common denominator to...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes, I can see that, but the attitude of some was "you lost, get over it". The hard brexiteers saw this "right wing coup" as an opportunity to push through deregulation of worker's rights and enviromental rules. A free for all. Having tried to ignore the remainers, and at the same time some...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I had a newly qualified lawyer move in to our flats. Called the police on a „talk music“ event on a Sunday evening. And then tried to get the neighbours to join in getting me closed. The event was a favour for local „lefties“ and the American musicians/ poetry readers‘ next gig was actually at...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Not directly, but the circumstances described lead to the frustration that many people have. They voted leave, although that was not the answer to the question as to how to change things for the better. The very people that they should be wary of, offered Brexit as the answer. It isn’t. The...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Agree. Or moves in above a pub that’s been there for years and complains about the noise from customers coming and going.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes. That was very interesting and did explain things very well.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Of course you are......
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The press and some right wing politicians blaming everything bad on the EU for over 40 years. Which is why you quoted things that have nothing whatsoever to do with the EU as being the reasons for voting leave.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Grendel?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You mentioned your village and your wife. I genuinely thought you were relating to your experiences. I don’t see the connection between Muslims, knife crime, gipsies and people dealing drugs in pubs and membership of the EU.
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