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  1. duffer

    Has it really come to this?

    The problem is NW, when the football club chooses to take itself away, what else are you going to do if you run ACL. I think they've always said that they want the club back - although I know the "sideshow" comments irked you. In fairness I read that as the current situation being like a...
  2. duffer

    Has it really come to this?

    Quite. I couldn't give a monkey's about what ACL does to make a few bob in the absence of the team. The only thing I'd rather they didn't do is bring in something permanent that stops the team returning. That is at least until that avenue is permanently closed by CCFC building their own...
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    Sky Blues Legends

    <====== Gets my vote, never put a foot wrong for us. Immaculate. Check out the avatar. ;)
  4. duffer

    possible after JR scenario ?

    Blimey, that's both me and you, and me and Rob agreeing - and all within a few minutes. I'm getting out of here before it all goes horribly wrong. 'Night! ;)
  5. duffer

    US business man planning to launch bit to bring CCFC back to the ricoh

    Blimey, then we agree, broadly speaking. Apart from the "billion times" thing, which is clearly an exaggeration. I've told you a million times Rob, don't exaggerate. ;)
  6. duffer

    possible after JR scenario ?

    I don't think that most businesses that deal with the council take the same approach as SISU in fairness, so I doubt they're too worried. To paint SISU as injured innocents in all this is a bit daft, imho. We can see how they tried to negotiate, and what happened to CCFC Ltd and its debts and...
  7. duffer

    possible after JR scenario ?

    Isn't that the key. As I say, I think they have to re-finance in that circumstance, i.e. get a mortgage elsewhere, or head down the road of Administration if they can't. The point I'm making is that doesn't necessarily lead to a SISU buy-out; if ACL goes into Administration it's most likely...
  8. duffer

    US business man planning to launch bit to bring CCFC back to the ricoh

    Good, so we've finally nailed down the 'cash cow' thing, that's a relief. So, having sold the rights to those revenues, do you think that the best course of action might be to attempt (again) to negotiate for their repurchase, or should SISU just hold out at Northampton regardless of how much...
  9. duffer

    possible after JR scenario ?

    I agree in that I think that's the main result of SISU winning the JR, the possible removal of Council funding for ACL. As for what happens if that occurs though, I reckon it's a bit cloudy. I don't think there's any obligation on ACL to sell any part of the business to SISU, for example, but...
  10. duffer

    possible after JR scenario ?

    If the Council win the JR, then I'd surmise SISU's only route is either back to the Ricoh on a rental deal, or selling to someone prepared to do that, or liquidate. I can't see how building a new smaller ground for £20m - £30m works financially when the club is already in debt up to its...
  11. duffer

    US business man planning to launch bit to bring CCFC back to the ricoh

    I know we've done this to death many, many times, but there was £21m needed to finish the build and that money had to come from somewhere. In essence it came from ACL, who borrowed it. The rent was set, broadly, at a level that covered that borrowing (even SISU seem to acknowledge that fact)...
  12. duffer

    US business man planning to launch bit to bring CCFC back to the ricoh

    So you accept then that it had nothing to do with profiteering? That point's been made a few times too.
  13. duffer

    US business man planning to launch bit to bring CCFC back to the ricoh

    And it's bullshit to pretend that the club didn't have half of ACL pretty much given to them, but chose to sell it to the Higgs. And then did nothing about it for years.
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    US business man planning to launch bit to bring CCFC back to the ricoh

    Except that it wasn't CCC or ACL. It was the Higgs Trust who bought this share, which had in effect been given to CCFC by CCC/ACL despite the club only putting £2m into a £118m build. The club then chose to sell the share to Higgs, because they'd run out of money. Higgs always planned to sell...
  15. duffer

    US business man planning to launch bit to bring CCFC back to the ricoh

    How much profit have ACL made from the club again Rob? If there's one thing that gets really boring its the old 'club as a cash cow' argument... The ACL accounts are out there, and public, so where's this huge profit?
  16. duffer

    So what is happening about private seat licenses?

    What a lazy, mean-spirited post. Full of bile and bullshit in equal measure. I'm guessing because you can't blame the Council or ACL for this one you feel the need to turn on people who chucked a bit of extra money at the club in good faith, only to be completely let down. Pathetic. First...
  17. duffer

    US business man planning to launch bit to bring CCFC back to the ricoh

    Given the club's current state, would it be better called Wakeboarding?
  18. duffer

    US business man planning to launch bit to bring CCFC back to the ricoh

    Footballers' agent, eh. I'm not sure I'd have mentioned that if I was looking to build trust from potential investors. ;) Might be legit I suppose, but looks a bit misguided at best, or on the hunt for a bit of free publicity at worst.
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    US business man planning to launch bit to bring CCFC back to the ricoh

    Sooner or later I think they have to. It's that or just continue to throw good money after bad. If they can't get their way with the Ricoh, then given the corner they've painted themselves into there's no way I can see them ever turning CCFC into a club that makes a profit. Eventually that...
  20. duffer

    US business man planning to launch bit to bring CCFC back to the ricoh

    I'm trying to work out how this stacks up. He gets £3m, but he doesn't want to buy the club? So, you use some of that £3m to pay rent at the Ricoh, let's say £200k per season for a couple of years, what happens to the remaining £2.5m. If you're not buying SISU out, then are you asking for a...
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