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I could well be wrong, or missing something, but I'd tend to agree that this doesn't look great financially. Maybe that's why SISU aren't too worried - if this venture fails, what happens next to ACL? With just 10% the council will have lost control...

I think, but don't quote me, that there's a salary cap in Prem rugby. But I could be taking out of my backside (again). Either way, we've seen in football that TV money seems to have any number of ways of slipping through the clubs' hands and ending up in the wrong places. I doubt rugby is...

You've got me beat there too, although BT have signed a big deal to televise Prem Rugby... is this where Wasps money is coming from? http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2012/sep/12/premiership-rugby-bt-deal-broadcast It's certainly not coming from their fans!

Accepted OSB, they haven't shown any ambition. But even down to the nub of the support we're likely to get more in than Wasps, and the potential for CCFC is much bigger even if at the moment it's not being realised by the current owners. Wasps are already in the top league - there's not much...

Around 7,000 at the moment for league games. Talk on their boards seems to suggest that very few will want to shift here - it's a bit like us and Northampton in terms of proportion I expect, 70%-90% drop off. I don't think Cov RFC fans will go if fixtures clash, or if it's somehow seen to...

And the last big European game you remember? And you call yourself a fan! ;) Joking aside, my point is that this isn't a game that really earns prestige or footfall (at the league level) in the same way that football can. Even a mid-table championship club at the Ricoh would attract double...

Just putting aside the moral argument for a moment, can we consider how big a product Wasps are offering. Currently two "franchise clubs", London Welsh and London Irish, at Oxford and Reading respectively, get what we would consider as appalling crowds for their home league fixtures 3,000 for...

I'm with you on this mate - what I'd like to do is roll back the clock to where we were back at the Ricoh and ACL and SISU were (hopefully) going to start talking about what it would take to have the club buy into the stadium. I can't believe that it's gone so wrong, so fast! For a lot of...

Absolutely Otis - but if this takeover of ACL goes ahead and SISU's option of buying into ACL is gone forever, then moving to a new, crappier ground might well be the only game in town. At that point it's down to SISU whether we stay at the Ricoh whilst the new ground is built. And even if...

That would be a long term agreement without the agreement of the current owners then, I guess. Because unless SISU have suddenly changed their tune they've always said that they're not going to stay as just tenants. It might suit Wasps and CCC for the club to stay, but whether it suits SISU is...

At least one article I've read says that Wasps are obliged to maintain their academy and training facilities in London in order to be able to pretend that they are not moving from their county of origin. (Partial article here...)...

You don't need a good source for this - CCFC have a contract to play at the Ricoh for the next two years at least. What happens after that though, that's down to the owners of the club and whoever controls ACL. No guarantees at all as to whether either of those parties might decide it would...

Man, I've been standing on the hill blowing a whistle for the last three home fixtures. I wondered why it was so quiet - why didn't anyone tell me. ;)

Option 4, Chief - they don't think it's worth what Wasps are paying for it, and perhaps hope to slide in afterwards and pick up the pieces? If you look at London Welsh, and how their franchise to Oxford seems to be playing out (rock bottom of the division, attendances around 3,000) that might...

A story from 2009? Exactly how could we have shown concern about that here unless we had a time machine?! So we've shot down that argument. As for the value of the Arena - that's a complete red herring, we're talking about ACL here and we're told that's a sustainable and profitable business...

No one needed to show that they were worried about the future of Cov RFC before, because it wasn't under threat. What's worse in my book is someone pretending to care about them, or to claim to stand against franchising in general, when actually they're not really fussed as long as it doesn't...

What depresses me is how many people will go along with it, because there's a slight possiblity that it might suit CCFC, or perhaps more accurately not suit SISU. To mix a metaphor, people have grasped onto that straw and thrown their morals out of the window. If the council vote for this they...

You could be right, but there's an awful lot of supposition here, and very little actual evidence. Even if bringing in a franchise club did herald the end of SISU, it still would be wrong in my opinion. The key is in the word 'franchise'. As for Rob and Les working for SISU, that's a cheap...

I think we're currently in a 2+2 deal Otis - so SISU or Wasps could move the club out of the Ricoh again at the end of next season I think. My point here remains; if we're not willing to stand against Wasps being moved now, we'll hardly have grounds for complaint if SISU decide to take us away...

In fairness to the club, I think they are getting the message to some degree - all the bitching about the "lost 20,000" comes from a segment of the fans. What worries me, is that it feels we're trying to run everything on a shoestring - the squad, the club shop, and the operational back-office...