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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    „When the Nazi Party came to power in 1933, they made the legend an integral part of their official history of the 1920s, portraying the Weimar Republicas the work of the "November criminals" who stabbed the nation in the back to seize power while betraying it. The Nazi propaganda depicted...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    „ The jews always used to laugh, They used to think it was a Joke. They aren't laughing now They know it's deadly serious.“ Substitute the EU parliament in his speech after Brexit.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The whole thing has the same rhetoric about breaking free, our great country, broken promises of politicians, regaining our place in the world, referring to what our fathers fought and died for.. the same rhetoric as the Nazis. The victims of betrayal. The failure of the democratic system. The...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I don’t think he said they were worse. „Rees-Mogg posted a video of the leader of the German political party Alternative für Deutschland (AfD), although he said afterwards he “was not endorsing” them. The AfD march alongside neo-Nazis, want refugee boats sunk and say Islam is worse than the...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No. I have never claimed they are. I say that some of the extreme Brexit pushers use the same or very similar rhetoric to leading Nazis. Some people get sucked in by the rhetoric. You can go on virtually any Brexit or Farage YouTube account and read through the comments section, and you will see...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Many black people have suffered racist abuse, or stupid comments. They claim that, and I believe them. I don’t know how you prove that. But, Lammy is always being attacked, as is Diane Abbot. Yes there are legitimate reasons to criticize them, but being black is one reason people on the right...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Lammy has to take abuse, partly because of his colour, so I imagine he knows more about the effects of the growing racism than yourself. We shouldn’t be playing the rhetoric down, but pointing out what is going on.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No. Nauseating viewing, and not for my family. Nice trip in the country afterwards to get the image of Farage, Richard Tice and Ms Mogg out of my head. They called themselves ordinary folk.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    His rhetoric is, and yes, some people are stupid enough to vote for him.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    A few of those around at the moment
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Just watched a Brexit Party rally in Nottingham from 20. April ( somewhat aptly Hitler’s birthday). Exact same rhetoric and jingoistic speeches from Farage. That, with his Breaking Point poster, makes a more exact match to Hitler.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes. Very true. That is not the sole consideration comparing the two. Hitler also liked cars and cream cakes.. apparently. Maybe you can find more similarities?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No it isn’t. Leaving the biggest trading block in the world for no clear reason, just mumbo jumbo spouted by some dubious politicians and tabloid newspapers owned by non resident billionaires, is a batshit crazy idea. Even Farage now claims it isn’t about economics and any downturn is the price...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Blair is at least eloquent and convincing.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    How? Without causing mayhem for the UK?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Very funny isn’t it... There were loads of anti May placards at the march. She is not admired na remainers.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Enslaved? We are a member now not a third country. This is leave. You might not like it, but it as a form of Brexit, where we become a third country. Great isn’t it. Remain is the better deal.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    We were talking about May, not the general public.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I was on the PV march. They were all so nice. No yobbishness no drunks, just people like scientists, quakers, doctors and nurses. They are not going to get up and say I’m donning khaki and grabbing a rifle. That would be stupid and corny. But unfortunately crap like that gets in the media. AfD...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The government advisors and business have spelled out the disaster no deal would bring. She has tried everything to get the leavers to back her deal. They won’t and the ERG won’t get a majority in favour of wrecking the country to suit their USA mates and hedge funds. So it’s stale mate, but...
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