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  1. tisza

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No possibilty of anything that restricts free movement if we remain. Commission already prosecuting Visegrad group (4 countries) for refusing to take quotas of legal immigrants.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    See even small extension getting messy. Many EU (Brussels ) leaders don't want an extension past May 23 because of elections. Also apparently pushing to have included an acceptance that Withdrawal agreement cannot be renegotiated. Have to wait for EU leaders to have their say.
  3. tisza

    Warwickshire CCC 2019 Thread

    just looking through the County ins and outs. Really average group of players in CC again this season. Days of interesting overseas players for long form cricket long gone.
  4. tisza

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    People talking about a General election. Don't see that as appealling to EU as regards extensions or altered deals. No absolute guarantees about who would win or decisive majorities. Every chance of a greater number of hardliners being selected and returned.
  5. tisza

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Few are full Brexit like they think they voted before. Few wanted the terms that are currently on offer but that's all that is on offer. This common thread amongst all proposing any leave deal (bar a Hard Brexit) is belief that they can still cherry pick whilst EU have mde it abundantly clear...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    ok your last sentence (like opinion polls :) ) reads slightly different than intended. So in the spirit of the debate I will" withdraw that statement" (my last bit) Mr Speaker :)
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    He came very close to crossing to Labour when he sat as an MP. He received little or no Tory support in several of the Speaker elections whilst being mainly supported by Labour. As for your last sentence you just make yourself look foolish when you move away from your better points of view and...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Problem with Bercow (for those that want to go on about one convention) is that he has broken many other conventions. He has politicised the role of the speaker which will be a fundamental change in the role of the Speaker going forward. As speaker should not have declared his remain vote. I...
  9. tisza

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    That's the point. 2 different yougov polls with is if the end result ishaving a referendum and remaining in eu a good option 37%.others are different types of leave options. Nearly all leave options have a minority approval rating when asked would that option respect the referendum result. My...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Exactly where this type of polling gets us into a mess. This poll is for people's vote yet another yougov poll on same dates for the Times shows only 37% saying have a referendum and stay in EU is a good thing. Problem with so many of these polls is they find the results the customer who...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes DUP wants out of Europe. Remove the backstop or put a time limit on it and they'll vote to leave. DUP are still a right wing hardline Unionist party.
  12. tisza

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Link please
  13. tisza

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Can't claim DUP are remainers. Always been a eurosceptic party due to an underlying belief / fear that EU ultimately wants a united Ireland. DUP objection is not to leaving but any possible different treatment from rest of UK.
  14. tisza

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    what they said they would respect the vote but didn't say how they'd do it. Even now Corbyn trying to rally support for a Norway agreement. So still wants to go just not in the same way other factions do.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    there won't be a solitary veto - it would only happen if one of the mini-blocks like Visegrad voted as a group.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Hungary won't (i'm here atm)
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    problem with this is, Brexit aside, too few politicians will break the whip on other big issues. perhaps the key is to abolish the respective whip offices. Whatever the wrongs of the former coalition govt (lib dem one) one of the few benefits was to keep many controversial Tory policies from...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    same principle - if it's about free votes why are Labour threatening to enforce the whip on a 2nd referendum.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Many of these "responsible" Tories are inevitably going not to make it through the next general election as their local associations don't reselect them. UKIP has gone. Disappeared at last election as it was a single issue group and subsequent move to a far right party has seen its support...
  20. tisza

    Warwickshire CCC 2019 Thread

    Good to see Brooks in there. Must be scouting around for a loaner. That line up isn't doing anything in the low scoring carnage that is early CC in April/may.
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