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Kelly and Torp are far too slow to play together there against half decent opposition. And they keep taking the safe option and passing it back to our back 3. This formation sucks without a) forwards who can hold the ball up and b) midfielders (including wingbacks in that) that are prepared to...

The fact we're getting the ball wide and trying to throw crosses into the box is also wrong against a team like Preston. We have 3 tall forwards in Palmer, Simms and Wright but none of them can really head the ball and no-one else can cross it well anyway. Our forwards want it on the floor...

Lot of players having a stinker but Lati in that midfield 2 is the root cause of why the formation looks broken tonight.

How the fuck can the ref think Simms has fouled their defender there but think the challenge on Sakamoto was no foul...

It's not my point! I was absolutely staggered that any one can genuinely believe that the reason footballers aren't coming out is that they are cowards and deliberately hiding their sexuality in the hope of a lucrative contract from an Arab owned club.

The only reason they are not out is because it might hinder their chances of a bumper contract with a club funded by Arab millions. From the offal FB page:

Not played well since the Leicester game but we keep picking up points.

Wouldn't surprise me to see O'Hare with cornrows next week, matching Wright's new look. Seems like the kind of ridiculous thing he'd do.

Was like playing with 10 men. Mainly because no-one would pass to him.

Stoke have failed to score in 50% of their home matches.

Would love to see the stats under Robins tenure for percentage of our victories that have been by a single goal. For a team that has improved season on season, it feels like that % would be unusually high. Or maybe I just forget the easier wins and remember these nerve shredders!

Starting to prefer Binks next to Thomas. Thomas seems much calmer with Binks there. When it's Kitching and Thomas they seem to just wind each other up until one of them tries to kill someone.

Actually think this could be a good game for Palmer, he's at his best when O'Hare is on the pitch and they can play their one touch footy. This Stoke defence needs moving around in order to break them down, not crosses from wide. Get him on for Tavares.

Don;t think Wright has had any choice because his first touch has been so awful today

Must be frustrating being a Stoke fan. They've had decent money for years, but every season they just seem to have a bunch of giant cloggers and play awful football.

I always find it weird that people update the match thread with other teams scores. If we're on here, we've got access to the internet!

Via a massive deflection off Thomas’ knee.

If I was him I’m not even sure I’d want to go and sit on the bench at a Champ club. After that many years out I’d want to be playing at the highest level I could while starting every week.

SBA deserved that equaliser for the long trip down there on a week night, and then backing the lads like they did through that weather.

I think we'd look much better with Eccles in for Lati. We're just far too slow to progress the ball with Lati there.