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simply didnt have a business that generated enough cash to pay out the bills wingy..... we have to rely on player sales to even get close because we dont get enough fans through the gate and dont get all the income fans generate.

was at Trent Bridge on Sunday England vs West Indies Ashdown...... announced cost of tickets for next Notts T20 £16 per head with concessions cheaper....... sat there thinking about how you can watch 3 hours of cricket with a pint (or two) in the sun with good banter, being entertained and some...

Well ordinarily Ashdown it would be B but this is football and it seems folk lose all sense and proportion because it is their team :D

I know going through figures isnt for everyone so thought I would do an overview of points to come out of the 2011 accounts - SISU are owed 29.7m at 31/05/11, SISU put in £5.5m in 2011 accounts year ..... how they apparently got to £40m as some state by 31/05/12 beggars belief. The problems...

Sorry got to dodge that one wingy........... your guess for the future is as good as mine. As far as the accounts to 31/05/12 go i think we can be fairly certain they will for CCFC be pretty much the same, CCFC H will disclose any more provisions against amounts channeled to CCFC so again more...

I think there is a grey area (at least one) in respect of CCFC and CCFC H I agree that funds seem to be channeled down from SISU investors to SBS&L to CCFC H to CCFC Looking at the CCFC accounts it says it owes group members £52.2m an increase of £8,441,360 from last year which is the amount...

The increase is a one off Rev and it is in the CCFC H accounts not CCFC. It relates to money that CCFC H have put into CCFC that they do not think CCFC can repay so they have provided for that and written the debt of £8.441m down. It is a bit misleading really. The employees would be an...

Not going to get too hung up on whether SISU will put more in or not ............ they certainly have not guaranteed to...... the only written undertaking refers to intentions and first and foremost intention not to call loans in. TF will have to minimise the need to go cap in hand to SISU -...

Good question and without seeing what TF & Co have told the auditors or League I cant answer really SoE. I have to assume they have put together a plan that the club can live within for at least the next 12 months. They would have to say this is what was but this is what will be and drive...

they made a provision against the sum that CCFC owed to CCFC H of £8.4m ...... didnt think ccfc could or would repay so wrote it off

I think the "bang bang bang" was the sound of the debt laden accounts for CCFC, CCFC H and SBS&L hitting the floor Based on those shopping at pound land will be a luxury!

no probs stupot :) ..... ignore the debt figures on CCFC and CCFC H it is really just moving money around the group..... the key debt figures are what SBS&L owe

I would have expected that Godiva except for a statement in the CCFC acounts Management continue to work on improving the cost base whilst improving revenue earning capacity, in the next financial year management anticipate a similar result for the underlying business to that achieved in the...

technically yes but the key accounts are SBS&L not the individual CCFC or CCFC H ones. SBS&L show the picture for the whole group excluding amounts between group members.

They havent dealt with the cost issues SoE. In 2011 they paid out more in wages and staff costs than they had in income before even paying the rent etc. No wonder ACL Charity and Council have little sympathy for them after seeing these figures!

These accounts pull together the performance of the whole group. As such are probably more important than singling out CCFC or CCFC H. Group accounts exclude any trading or balances existing between the group companies so give a truer value of the entity as a whole Brief comments Directors...

A brief summary of the 2011 CCFC H Ltd accounts accounts signed off 19/06/12 - Similar statements to ccfc ltd regarding going concern and the ability to continue - Employee involvement statement the company recognises the importance of good communications and ensures that employees...

Have just downloaded the accounts for CCFC CCFc(H) and SBS&L. Will provide a summary of each. These are initial thoughts so may well add to later. CCFC Ltd Is owned by CCFC H Ltd but the ultimate ownership is stated as SBS&L Directors report "the potential to reach League 1 playoffs and the...

It will be interesting to see how Lee Clarke does at the blue noses. Lot of people have said in the past that would have liked him at CCFC. Wont have the same budget as at Huddersfield and Birmingham have big expectations of their managers & team. Certainly will have more to spend than CCFC...

Seems to me that we always look to find excuses for poor performance without ever really addressing the real issue which is the depth of real talent in this country. We have the richest league in the world and yet so little seems to be spent on the long term plan to develop our own talent. Look...