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  1. oldskyblue58

    Average League Attendance

    that would imply we have been charged more than we have contracted for Gendel ........... Court has already confirmed this not to be the case. If there is a deal done to accept less that is a negotiation between the parties to settle outstanding amounts but it isnt because it is an...
  2. oldskyblue58

    Average League Attendance

    Dont you think that before we start arguing about what our rent should be based on L1 average we ought actually prove the starting point rather than just accept TF's word for it. To be more accurate perhaps we ought to include a notional rent for all the other clubs who own their ground but...
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    CET: The deal turned down by sisu revealed

    Just some rhetorical questions - Is this really about the rent ? - is there anything in the timing of all this ? Last season we were panicing because accounts not signed off because we didnt know if SISU would back us yet we did nothing about the rent? - what would the average rent be if all...
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    CET: The deal turned down by sisu revealed

    its not the bargain you think they are after though SBT - but we will have to agree to differ on that opinion
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    CET: The deal turned down by sisu revealed

    That would be all the expenditure would it :thinking about:
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    CET: The deal turned down by sisu revealed

    Dont think you should exclude the others as such...... most of them will have mortgaged those grounds in order to keep going (a cost we dont have) and that is in a sense a financial rent. Ideally each ground needs to be given a notional rent value and then averaged out. Never going to happen...
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    CET: The deal turned down by sisu revealed

    Here is a thought ...... Budgeted loss £3m Saving on rent by accepting new deal £858k New income source from new deal say £100k Other income sources already received £100k Say L1 average wages (seems only fair as we keep claiming average this and that - what 2.2m - Tranmere btw was £1.5m...
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    CCFC STATEMENT - and.... who the fook is Peter Ward? Bugger off

    not the way it is portrayed though is it ashbyjan. Comes over as the SCG opinion Thanks for the update btw ...... I for one know very little of what goes on at the SCG, i suspect i am not alone ..... i find that strange considering it is supposed to represent the fans in some way. I know the...
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    CET: The deal turned down by sisu revealed

    Can only deal with what is now though really..... we may be stuck here for years. If we get promoted or even come close the club will benefit from big increase in its income streams - rent going up to £1m wouldnt be a problem We dont know the increased income streams either that ACL have...
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    CET: The deal turned down by sisu revealed

    To a very great degree CCFC choose their own break even point by the level of wages that they pay. TF apparently wants league average at £170k (was £200K then £150K now £170k if you believe his statements). For a ground that is way above L1 average. So that would be in his terms £230k required...
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    CET: The deal turned down by sisu revealed

    not telling the press ? ................. errrr pot calling kettle black Torch Club havent got a leg to stand on complaining about that
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    CET: The deal turned down by sisu revealed

    Would guess TF got caught on the hop by these details coming out. Lets be honest ACL have made a very reasonable offer - a final offer by the looks - which CCFC have turned down. btw £400k no longer us the highest rent payers in L1 - want proof just ask a Walsall supporter today. Real...
  13. oldskyblue58

    Kilbane retires

    I agree ............ good luck to him in what ever he does
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    CCFC STATEMENT - and.... who the fook is Peter Ward? Bugger off

    I am right in thinking that the SCG is an entity set up by the club am I not ? Mr Ward has every right to express his opinion I have absolutely no problem with that = same right we all have Perhaps it might have been a better statement had he waited until after the weekend when he said he...
  15. oldskyblue58

    Fisher on CWR

    SBT - fully agree you are entitled to your opinion or your own spin on things. I really have no problem with that. Please do not call the expression of my own opinion as lying - I have never said it was anything other than my opinion, it certainly is not a lie. However the facts are the facts...
  16. oldskyblue58

    Walsall match

    ahhhh ! football i remember that ! 3 - nil win i reckon .......... no disrespect to Walsall but we need to keep pushing on and i cant see MR letting the players slack. Hope the lads put on a good display so we can forget some of the other crap. Hope players not distracted by off field...
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    Mr Fisher please wake up

    subject to a non disclosure agreement i believe torch :whistle:;)
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    Mr Fisher please wake up

    how it was all paid for: Council equity £10m Sale of land to Tesco £42.42m sale of land to Tesco pd in kind £17m (think this was picking up the costs that CCFC couldnt pay re decontamination & infrastructure originally these costs were CCFC's investment in the project but they didnt have the...
  19. oldskyblue58

    All Ricoh/ alternative ground comments.

    just a thought what happens with the season tickets ? Just transferred at full value to new venue ? Refunds to those not transferring, refund to those going because facilities less etc? Dont think it will be an issue in the end but if we did move there are all sorts of things to sort out to...
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