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I'll turn it around, as I've shown why it is til I'm blue(or maybe yellow and black) in the face. Just answer this for me. Why is the apparent deal, from Wasps better than what Sisu offered. Would it have made much difference what(reasonably sensible, from both sides) offer that Sisu made if...

It's not an apparent fact, it''s a fact. Negotiations were going on during the rent strike.

Wilson would be shit in goal though.

Not sure to be honest, Bath been in very good form lately, and always a difficult game.

The Council would not accept an offer for Higgs from Sisu, hence it didn't happen. Been made pretty clear that was the case several times. Are you turning into Astute?

Over 125 years rather than 250 should surely mean that Wasps should offer at least twice as much as Sisu. Ergo, the Sisu offer was better.

The local media not a cery good grasp of the facts reported in the media to be honst. How much is the deal for ACL? £40 million, £30,million, £20million? Seen all those figures mentioned. Council to retain 10%? Council to buy Higgs share and then sell it on to Wasps?

Details have been put on here loads of times, just today.

ACL is the Leaseholder, which CCC owned 50% of, no confusion over leasehold or freehold there. They wanted to protect their, yes, commercial interest in ACL, which they saw as a long term investment. Two years down the line and they've flogged it off on a 250 year lease, for £2.77 million and...

Aye, they might take us both down to High Wycombe when nobody turns up to watch them in Cov.

Picnic Basket makers?

This was pre talk about the Freehold. Don't see where Sisu buying out the loan and controlling the mortgage and Wasps now buying the loan and(soon I'd imagine) having 100% of ACL is any different though really. Agree it's all a frustrating mess.

Who knows what they may have negotiated with YB, or what they were, in reality, prepared to offer? None of us now.

As I said earlier, the proposal from Sisu to buy out the loan may not have panned out as they wanted and so the deal may not have gone ahead. The fact that the Council went and did their own seperate deal for the ACL loan from YB means that we will never know though now, but as was stated in...

She went for 125 year lease. Pay off the loan. Give Higgs either £5.5million or £2million Rejected.

At least I go on about things that actually happened, not just in your head.

This referred to ACL, not the Freehold.

That was in relation to the Council share of ACL, nothing to do with the Freehold. Think that somebody else may be trying to muddy the waters here.

Lucky we didn't sell our home and have houses built on it, otherwise we could have ended up paying excessive rents for years at a place too big for us and end up going bust twice. God forbid!