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The libertarian "we need to open the economy as soon as possible, you don't understand that lockdown could do as much damage as the disease" types mainly. As if nobody is noticing they are not at work or the constant barrage of forecast on the economic damage.

Some of the praise of Sweden is a bit misleading. They are still experiencing growth in cases and growth in deaths. The nature of their demographics, high proportion of people live alone, pop density etc seems to have just meant they had to implement fewer measures compared to some other...

Yes a lot of evidence saying you're higher risk being a smoker. I think our authorities were saying you were 14 times more likely to die if you were a smoker. There seems to be a lot of confusion around this. I am wondering if a lot of the smokers with poor health in the most vulnerable age...

Why is the alternative to not taking action locking up children? Clearly they would have just restricted people going on holiday. You fucking maniac.

You described the pandemic as social media hyperbole so don't now pretend you thought stronger action should have been taken because you want to spin some bullshit narrative that the government is "weak and liberal" and can't take strong action because of social media criticism.

That's true. Trump and Brexit have damaged politics beyond repair. And yes, before anyone mentions it Iraq didn't help.

I haven't had a chance to look into it but obviously the government has gotten PR agencies to perform dubious tasks on their behalf and have put out false narratives on social media before. That didn't have much of a negative effect so I guess it doesn't matter either way.

This is horrifying and should bring down the government in any sane country. This is akin to the Chinese governments propaganda.

This too shall pass Pipkin. It sounded like you probably have a decent pension sat waiting for you so speak to Grendel or any of the many people who offered. Don't give in. The sun will shine again.

I'm sure she'll get the same grief DA got and if anyone on the left criticises her the right won't fall over themselves to scream racism like they do any other time she's criticised.

Yes, as I said the other day it's amazing how often we are being asked to believe in two conflicting things.

Yes, the situation at JLR seems very perilous.

Maybe you're right and some harsh criticism will cut through but it's objectively correct that Starmer has been criticised for what he has said. I assume he is trying to take the middle ground, whether or not that will be wise long term I do not know. I agree with you regarding civil discourse...

Looking at this infographic from a Mail online article and it looks like it is based on the artwork of the board game Pandemic.

The government has not shit itself it is just following the science which is mixed on the effectiveness of toilets.

Yes quite, I was being facetious as "not comparing apples and oranges" and such is so frequently being used as a get out for any questioning of how well the government has handled things.

On that, and going back to the governments communication, it was telling the other day when a journalist mentioned that France were including care home deaths in their stats and if we did the same we'd have somewhat higher deaths than they have. Of course, the journalist was quickly pointed out...

Yes that is the only thing I can think of. Of course, that would be comparing apples and bananas and we would never do that would we? ;)

Only thing you could do with the boomers is try and outdo the tories at their targeted messaging and spend millions on pretend think tanks and campaign groups. I doubt that will ever work now the boomers are living through their WW2 by staying at home, watching TV and clapping and can now...

Does anybody else think the governments criteria for easing lock down is somewhat foolish considering they have spent the last few weeks telling us we have adequate PPE and any lack is just NHS staff feeling like they can't get enough of it and they are now saying testing is not being used to...